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John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive

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nzo

01-04-2008 14:05:43




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Over the last 6 months, I've noticed the hydrostatic drive getting weaker and weaker, to the point where if the ride-on has been mowing for an hour or less it cannot get up slopes it used to handle with ease. If I continue mowing I'll be lucky to get the machine back to base.

Two years ago, about 2 years after purchasing the new L130, I noticed the same problem, resulting in the John Deere agency replacing the hydrostatic transmission under warranty.

I expressed my concern at the time that the same fault may happen again, with us having to foot the out-of-warranty bill next time. The agency's response was that this was most likely a 'one-off'.

When I contacted them before Christmas about the present problem, the service guy said, "Oh, we don't bother repairing these transmissions - we just throw them out and put in a new one."

This did not reassure me at all, and made me wonder how many other L130 owners are being taken to the cleaners by John Deere with having to replace their transmissions about once every two years!

It also makes me wonder if there is some underlying fault in this transmission that JD are not being straight about.

Any insights very much appreciated :)

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jd b puller

01-05-2008 06:23:41




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to nzo, 01-04-2008 14:05:43  
There's only one reservoir on this one and trust me on the 5W-50 FULL SYNTHETIC.



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buickanddeere

01-06-2008 19:43:54




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to jd b puller, 01-05-2008 06:23:41  
Being in NZ one could probably run Amsoil 60wt synthetic. What exactly is the mode of failure with this trans? What are you doing with the tractor?



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leon

01-05-2008 05:53:54




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to nzo, 01-04-2008 14:05:43  
Just because the drive belt was replaced doesn't necessarily mean that it is tensioned properly. I've bought some time on worn hydro's by draining the oil out and replacing it with a heavier than specified oil, like maybe a SAE 10W30 or 10W40. Sometimes the differential is a separate reservoir from the hydro, sometime not, so be sure you're changing oil in the right box!



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jd b puller

01-05-2008 05:49:40




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to nzo, 01-04-2008 14:05:43  
Nzo, RobMD, others...

- As stated earlier, the L-Series are meant to compete with the MTD, Toro, Craftsman, etc, but in general are a superior product at that level. The trans is definately not overbuilt on those tractors, but performs well in most conditions. Now if you go to start pulling stuff a lot and have hills etc, or you weigh 600#, you might have issues.

- I don't know how you can fault JD for "not standing behind" your tractor. What do you want, a lifetime warranty? Most of the car manufactureres offer a 5 year powertrain warranty, do you think that they would replace the trans in your 9 year old truck for you?

- out of curiosity, how many hours are on that machine?

- Your mechanic told you that they are throw away trans because with a shop rate of $50-90/ hour, its almost always less expensive to replace vs. rebuild. That and the parts are unavailable - you can get some directly from the mfg, but after seeing the price you'd opt for a new trans as well.

- One thing you could do to your machine is to change the oil in the trans. It's not too bad to do. Pull the trans, take the fan off, there's a plug under the fan. Be careful not to damage it when you get it out. DON'T REMOVE the plug on the TOP of the trans, that's a vent. Flip the trans over and let it all drain out - overnight is best.

- refill it with 5W-50 FULLY SYNTHETIC oil to where it's within 1/2" of the TOP of that hole that you drained it out of (the one under the fan). Will likely extend the life by at least a year, maybe two.

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buickanddeere

01-04-2008 21:05:00




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to nzo, 01-04-2008 14:05:43  
Is there any grass or dirt plugging the cooling fins? As previously stated a loose or glazed belt will cause grief. And as previously stated. If you purchased the cheapest machine. You purchased a machine that cost less because less time, precision and quality was involved in its manufacture.



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nzo

01-04-2008 21:11:26




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to buickanddeere, 01-04-2008 21:05:00  
No, no grass or dirt plugging the fins. And the drive belt has just been replaced with brand new belt. We eliminated these factors right at the start of our troubleshooting process.



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powertech84

01-04-2008 17:03:38




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to nzo, 01-04-2008 14:05:43  
i work for a dealership and you would not believe how many people buy those cheap-o mowers and think that because it says john deere it will last forever. that was the worst thing deere ever did was stop calling them sabres and labeling them the same as the good mowers. common sense would tell you if you pay less than $2000 for a mower, it aint gonna last



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scottm1938

01-04-2008 15:54:51




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to nzo, 01-04-2008 14:05:43  
Well we all know you get what you pay for. The L series lawnmowers are low end tractors designed to sell along side of the MTD and Craftsman type mowers. As for John Deere standing behind the machine, they did replace the trans for you once, and if I understand you correctly, your machine is 4 years old now, well out of warranty. These tractors are not built to last forever, but will go a long time if used as they are designed to. Before you jump to the conclusion of a bad trans, take a look at the drive belt that runs from the engine to the trans. These will wear and crack, giving the same symptons as you described. Good luck, and hang in there

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nzo

01-04-2008 21:14:54




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to scottm1938, 01-04-2008 15:54:51  
Thanks for the comments.

Here in New Zealand we don't get many of those other mower brands you mentioned.

By the time we got to the John Deere, we had tried 3 other international and local brands. Each time we were assured "Yes, this machine will do the job" (on a moderately-sloped acre of land with several flat areas). Those first machines all packed up sooner rather than later.

We bought the John Deere because our next door neighbor owned the dealership for JD and we were desperate for a machine that would handle the terrain.

He came over to look at the land and said the L130 was ultra reliable and would handle it no problem at all. Neither he, nor his head mechanic, nor John Deere in USA, told us the transmission would need to be replaced every two years!

Had they told us that we would have told them to shove it where the sun does not shine.

BTW, in NZ one of those JD L130 so-called "piles of junk" costs around $NZ8500.00.

And...John Deere would not reveal what actually went wrong with the transmission that was replaced under warranty, or what goes wrong with transmissions that pack up every two years or so.

So much for "standing behind the product". /:~(

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RobMD

01-04-2008 14:31:46




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 Re: John Deere Lawn Tractor L130 - weak hydrostatic drive in reply to nzo, 01-04-2008 14:05:43  
These tractors are the equivalent of the home depot John Deere junk. A co-worker paid somewhere on the order of 2550 for an L130, and He had hydro problems as well. The tractor was finally traded off on a new Kubota, and problems are a thing of the past.

Whenever you get a low-end Deere, you will find that John Deere will not stand behind the product once you get it.

The L130 and other model junkers are equivalent to buying a Yard-man built by MTD. It is clearly meant to be a disposable piece of crap, but I find that Sears Crapsman lawn tractors will outlast any Deere.

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