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Hitch category conundrum

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hoosier43fan

11-11-2023 16:35:44




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I own several pieces of cat 1 implements (rotary cutter, 80 gal.sprayer, disk, broadcast seeder, etc.) that are used regularly on an IH 424. Problem is, I'd like to trade for a JD 2020 for a bit more HP. I understand that bigger bushings will be needed, but will the dimensions match up to make these tools work smoothly on a cat 2 hitch? As far as a quick hitch, I haven't used on since these pieces are easy enough to just pin and go. Main concern is just smooth lifting operation. Thanks!

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hoosier43fan

11-12-2023 12:40:57




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
Perfect! Thanks to all. YT always comes through .



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tomstractorsandtoys

11-12-2023 06:02:02




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
We used cat. 1 implements on 1020-2020 Deere tractors for years and never even bothered with the bushogs. If it works on your 424 it will be fine on a 2020. On Deere tractors the cat 1 and 2 arms were the same length. Tom



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Jim.ME

11-12-2023 05:13:39




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
I use cat 1 implements on my 2020 all the time. It has cat 2 balls on the telescoping draft links, they also had a couple types of solid draft links, with cat 2 balls. I use bushings to make up for the difference in the cat 1 pin and 2 ball sizes. The OEM top links has a special odd sized pin (about 25/32 instead of 3/4) at the tractor bracket. However, a regular 3/4 top link pin fits a bit loose but works ok so you can use a standard cat 1 top link of the length you need (or the OEM top link, if you have it, with a bushing to cat 1 on the implement end). The 2020 sway blocks can be repositioned for either cat 1 or 2 implements.

As noted, your PTO shaft(s) will need to be looked at to see that the overlap is still correct on the 2020. That is likely the biggest issue.

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paul

11-12-2023 03:43:37




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
Pto shaft length might be an issue, as cat 2 arms are typically a bit longer. If you currently have very short pto shaft on something it might not be long enough for the cat 2. Usually there is enough overlap its fine, but....



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hoosier43fan

11-11-2023 17:58:07




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
Thanks Roger.



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hoosier43fan

11-11-2023 17:56:05




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
Great info thanks, and yes, your point regarding hp is understood. Just wanted to make sure dimensions would line up without bending things. Doubting a 66 vintage has reversible arms but if all I need are bushings not a problem. Just hated to think about replacing all these implements!



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Roger in Iowa

11-11-2023 17:47:21




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
2020 Operators manual will tell you adjustments for Cat 1 implements.



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hoosier43fan

11-11-2023 17:15:12




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
Great info thanks, and yes, your point regarding hp is understood. Just wanted to make sure dimensions would line up without bending things. Doubting a 66 vintage has reversible arms but if all I need are bushings not a problem. Just hated to think about replacing all these implements!



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E.B. Haymakin'

11-11-2023 16:55:15




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 Re: Hitch category conundrum in reply to hoosier43fan, 11-11-2023 16:35:44  
I have a Kubota L2050 cat 1 3 point, and most of my implements are matched to that tractor, I also have a New Holland 3010s that has flippable lift arms with cat 1 and cat 2 balls on either end, I have left it in cat 2 outward and just use the bushings and have never had an issue with even the narrowest of my cat 1 implements. However it is very easy to destroy a implement designed for a 25hp tractor when used behind a 45hp tractor. That is the issue I've run into. Also my six foot rotary cutter has cat 1 pins but is way too much cutter to use behind the Kubota.

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