Farmall 450 and grinder mixer

I am looking for suggestions on models of grinder mixers that would work with my 450 and possibly my M. Dealer support in my area are JD, CIH, Gehl and New Holland. I won t be buying for a year or so but want to start doing some homework.
 
We had a Gehl mill. Ground a lot of ear corn for steers, ground a lot of shelled corn for hogs, even some small squares of hay and oats for some special rations. We used a late model M and a WD-45, and never
had problem. The Gehl dealer really wanted our trade-in, and made us an offer on a new Gehl with an extended unloading auger that we couldn't refuse. The new one was just as good as the first one. This brand
is well built!
 
We used to run our NH350 with our H,MD and bigger tractors. Grinding shelled corn it worked fine with the H. Oats are not a big load either. Ear corn is what takes power, or grinding dry hay out of idiot cubes. Ground feed for the neighbor a few times with the same grinder and 830 case would talk with him shoveling in ear corn.
 
(quoted from post at 08:42:51 01/30/23) We had a Gehl mill. Ground a lot of ear corn for steers, ground a lot of shelled corn for hogs, even some small squares of hay and oats for some special rations. We used a late model M and a WD-45, and never
had problem. The Gehl dealer really wanted our trade-in, and made us an offer on a new Gehl with an extended unloading auger that we couldn't refuse. The new one was just as good as the first one. This brand
is well built!
What model Gehl?
 
A 60 hp 450 will not handle a NH 355 mill in shelled corn if you feed it in as fast as the mill will handle it. If you feed it in slower, it will work just fine.
 
I'd do some inquiring as to what is available for parts with each brand of g-m. Seems like a lot of parts are NLA with each
brand. The parts yards of been pretty well emptied of usable stock. Which is to say even though initially expensive buy something
that has a lot of life left to it as opposed to a will work unit.
 
You'd be OK with a New Holland 352-354 or Gehl 55-65-95. I'd trust that your best bet for parts would be the New
Holland. Parts for the Deere would be NLA., I can tell you that with certainty. Trying to get parts for a Deere
700 was the last straw between me and what they tried to pass off as a dealer. Save yourself the aggravation.
Gehl, you'd need to find NOS parts in a dealer inventory somewhere. There was a double bevel gear in the auger
drive that I had to replace in a 65 a few times, seemed to be a weak spot. I doubt you'd find one anymore. I have
and have had a lot of Gehl equipment, but I'd be hard pressed to buy a Gehl grinder mixer anymore. New Holland is
about the only way to go.
 
CaseIH mills were made by Art's-Way, who still makes mills, so parts might be good for them, too. I believe the Massey Ferguson 15 mills were also rebranded Art's-Way, so you could conceivably get Art's-Way made parts through CaseNH to fix a Massey Ferguson.
 
Ya I knew that, but you might have to dig to find parts. Seems like somebody posted a link one time to a place in the midwest. I'm guessing an AGCO Massey dealer wouldn't be able to get them anymore. I don't know if CaseIH would or not, do you know?

AGCO owns the Farmhand brand. They might be able to get parts for those, but I have one sitting here with bearings out in the gearbox and can't for the life of me get it apart. They don't come apart like the New Holland and Gehl do. There are two bolts that come down from the top and an auger that runs through the casting. I tipped it right over on its side and can't figure it out. It's for sale cheap.
 
The older mills mentioned will work fine. If you can find one in good shape any more. Agree with thrm on parts,
really hard to find some parts. Bearing and such can be bought but if you break something special you will need to
fabricate or adapt....

New mills are what $50,000 plus, then folk just call the coop and have feed delivered. New mills would take a lot
more power than you have. I know you know this part....

Im familiar with the 50 and 55 Gehl, good machines in their day.

Paul
 
My pick would be a New Holland 351,352,353 or 355. Good grinders. We have 2 Deere 400's but I know you can not get many parts from Deere
anymore. We parted out 2 that were low wear but rusted out so we have plenty of parts. I also bought a good many nos parts years ago. Tom
 
I got rid of my JD 400 a few years back because of no parts support. I got a old Arts Way 425 which I can still get
parts for which has been working fine for me. New Holland would be my next choice if I was looking for one. Best to
just look it over good what ever you decide. I hauled the Arts Way 250 miles away from home but it was in better
shape than allot of the newer models I looked at. I looked for a while and bid on 3 different New Hollands at
auctions before I brought the last one which I found it on Tractor House.
 
Good to know. I wouldn't turn a good one down if it crossed my path for the right price. I guy just south of town used to sell Arts Way and Badger but I didn't know where you'd find parts for either anymore.
 
Your 450 will nave no issue. A good friend uses a 5000 Ford,has for years.Has more than enough power.There are youtube videos of M and H Farmalls on grindermixers. Like my brother in law. He has a
Balebuster round bale feeder. It is rated for 80 horsepower.He pulls it with a Farmall 300. about 40 horse.The tractor has plenty of power. The only problem is a bale that is frozen to the ground
makes the tractor a bit light in the rear end. That can be fixed filling the tires.Often times a big tractor is not the answer. With a big tractor,the tendency is to overfeed(it has the power,right
;)). Thenit gets plugged and something breaks. A smaller tractor will tell you when to stop.Use your 450.
 
Ran our 50 and then I got a 55 Gehl for decades with ge ihc 300. Had to feed ear corn a little slow, oats I didnt want to shovel faster than it could take.....

Paul
 
Any two ton or two and a half ton grinder mixer should work very well with tractors between 40 to 100 HP weighing 4000 pounds or more. Unless you need more than a five tons of feed per week and your time available is very limited, HP should not be a problem as you can always run the infeed auger at a slow speed with the infeed slide choked down to match the HP available.

The weight of a fully loaded grinder mixer could be a bigger factor if you need to thread an unloading auger through a small window while maneuvering on a slick side slope. BTDT. Ribbed implement tires help keep a mixer from side sliding too much.
 
(quoted from post at 08:02:08 01/30/23) I am looking for suggestions on models of grinder mixers that would work with my 450 and possibly my M. Dealer support in my area are JD, CIH, Gehl and New Holland. I won t be buying for a year or so but want to start doing some homework.

I think it's going to be a matter of finding a survivor that has enough life left in it to suit your needs, than worrying about dealer support.

Pretty sure Art's Way is the only game left in town as far as new machines and providing parts support. Grinding your own feed just isn't as fashionable as it once was, and these little tub grinders just can't keep up with the demands of the modern large farm.

There are some nice ones left out there but you have to find them. I went to an auction last year with a mint New Holland grinder that the guy bought new and only used a few times. Can't remember how much it brought but the bidding was fierce and went on for quite a while.
 

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