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Poor baler I must of run it to 273 New Holland square ba

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Shealray

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I run the little baler in 2nd gear at 1900 tractor rpm
Did some looking found it should run
around 450 to 500 pto rpm
OMG I been running all season at 690 if I use the math
Decide 1900 by 2.75 i get 690
By tractor is a New Holland Boomer 50
So does the tractor max out at 450?
 
My 5200 is rated for 540 rpm at approx 1900 rpm. My 681 is at 1800 rpm's. My 1210 is rated 540 at 2450 rpm. Different tractors are rated at different rpm.s Your manual for the Boomer should tell at what rpm's to run to get 540 pto.
 
I'm not sure which Boomer 50 you have, but the couple instrument clusters I found searching the 'net have 540 marked at 2400 RPM. If that's
so, you should be fine running at 1900. When all else fails, with a baler, see what the manual says about strokes per minute at 540 & set
your PTO speed at that setting to start with. Then you can adjust your speed down until you are comfortable with the results.

I had the same issue of speed with my NH 268. That baler did not like to run fast. Tried it for a while on my 806 @ 540 & broke a couple
rollers off the plunger. Put it on my 460 & ran it at about 490 - 500. Much better! Tied better, too. That baler did not have much of an
appetite though & it was a happy day when my old IH 47 baler decided to start baling again (long story).

Good luck with your hay making adventures!

Mike
 
I have learned it is an art form seeing a field notice how the grass lays and thickness.


Transforming a mass of confusion, dangers hidden and unseen into perfect sized bales the stuff made of farmers dreams.
 
Run it at what works, don't over think it. If it's been working at 700, run it at 700.
 
If your tractor has a working instrument cluster I would expect it has a mark on the engine rpm dial to show max normal pto rpm.

Run your baler with the dial pointed at that mark or a little less. My baler likes to run about 3/4-7/8 of full rpm speed. I would not want to try pushing it faster than normal
full pto rpm speed.

Engine rpm really doesnt matter, each model is different. All that matters is the pto speed.

Keep it simple.

Look at your gauge for the pto mark. If it doesnt have one I would be surprised, but then likely somewhere on the speed chart it mentions what engine speed = full pto
speed. If not, it will say so in the manual at least.

Paul
 
My experience is DO NOT overspeed a square baler. They will thrash themselves to death. Somewhere in the literature I have seen a warning
from NH...Do Not overspeed. The PTO speed of your tractor, IF IT IS LIVE PTO, is based upon engine RPM regardless of gear. When I bale I set
the baler at a PTO speed just a little below 540 RPM, then adjust ground speed with gear selection while keeping the engine RPM constant.
 
I learned from expensive experience not to over-rev an old NH square baler. My hired help kept breaking something when they baled. The baler broke more often when someone else baled, than when I baled. I finally figured out that they were in a hurry to get it finished, so they pushed open the throttle just a little, then....pushed just a little more,... then BOOM!!!! I have not let a hired person run my old balers in years and have had few major breakdowns since....there I just jinxed myself. I bale at about 80% of the rated 540 RPM....hard to keep that discipline when I am tired and want to get finished, but I try.
 
I run a 273 with a J.D. 3020.. pto 540 running at 2000+/- which is where the meter on tractor says is pto speed.

Notice the 273 manual says with a engine mounted on baler it runs 70 strokes @2820 rpm with 17.5 hp..
and manual also says 66 strokes per min @ 540 RPM..thats not even idle speed on a 3020 LOL..

wondered if misprint should read @540 pto since some baler run 1000 usually rounds though..
I also run this baler with my massey 1180 which has pto speed on its meter as well at 2200..

DOnt know the right answer here except tractors say ptos need to run at pto speeds and its different if I have the
540 in or change out to the 1000..

just more garble for thought..
 
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