60" rake moves more dirt than removes debris

rockwind1 · Jan 15, 2022

i bought a nice rake but i want to remove small debris, grass, small roots, from some tilled up dirt,, the rake seems to move about as much dirt as my blade. is there a different implement that will rake up small stuff but yet leave the dirt where i want it?

using a '55 ford 850

dwragon · Jan 15, 2022

too much debris, too big for the rake, or too many teeth on the rake?

J Hamilton · Jan 15, 2022

May have to much down pressure on the rake.
Try lifting it to where it just barely
touches the ground and see if that helps.
Also in freshly tilled soil that rake will
move a lot of dirt just from the weight of
itself

caterpillar guy · Jan 16, 2022

Might try a wheel rake for hay they will move stones in some cases raking hay I've seen it happen some. Will pickup small limbs and such.

Texasmark · Jan 16, 2022

Turn the blade around so that the teeth point backwards and shorten your top link making the slope of the blades greater. On the
position control, for bumpy ground it needs to be set lower than needed so the implement will float. On smooth ground you can
put a little lift on the implement to reduce the depth of impact.

A couple of days ago I worked over a hay pasture. Last fall the owner let the grass grow after the 3rd cutting and mature,
producing seed pods. After it was thoroughly dried out, he went over it with his shredder and mowed it down, scattering the
heads and dislodging the seeds. I came back with the rake as I mentioned, in the float condition and put a little dirt over the seeds
for better germination this spring, raking up most of the clippings as I went, which I dumped (lifted the 3 pt) at the end of each
row. Worked great and no (dry) dirt accompanied the clippings.

rockwind1 · Jan 21, 2022

(quoted from post at 09:05:29 01/16/22) Turn the blade around so that the teeth point backwards and shorten your top link making the slope of the blades greater. On the
position control, for bumpy ground it needs to be set lower than needed so the implement will float. On smooth ground you can
put a little lift on the implement to reduce the depth of impact.

A couple of days ago I worked over a hay pasture. Last fall the owner let the grass grow after the 3rd cutting and mature,
producing seed pods. After it was thoroughly dried out, he went over it with his shredder and mowed it down, scattering the
heads and dislodging the seeds. I came back with the rake as I mentioned, in the float condition and put a little dirt over the seeds
for better germination this spring, raking up most of the clippings as I went, which I dumped (lifted the 3 pt) at the end of each
row. Worked great and no (dry) dirt accompanied the clippings.

hi, interesting idea, sorry it took so long to answer. i will maybe try that. i do need to pick up debris though

rockwind1 · Jan 21, 2022

(quoted from post at 09:05:27 01/16/22) Might try a wheel rake for hay they will move stones in some cases raking hay I've seen it happen some. Will pickup small limbs and such.

maybe but i am sort of trying to use implements on hand,, can't really afford another implement right now. maybe i should remove 2 teeth, then leave one, then remove another 2, and so on. i just want to capture the debris

Texasmark · Jan 24, 2022

That ought to work. Your 850 have a Draft control? If so, set it for light duty and that might help if you are on flat ground.

Destroked 450 · Jan 24, 2022

Removing two teeth will leave a pretty good space
I purchased a land scape rake several years ago to remove stones and twigs from cleared ground, it would take dirt and all
I removed everything other tooth and even though it would still take some dirt it did a much better job
Never did put those teeth back in
Try everything other one and if your still not happy do the two out and one in

rockwind1 · Jan 24, 2022

(quoted from post at 21:18:07 01/24/22)
Removing two teeth will leave a pretty good space
I purchased a land scape rake several years ago to remove stones and twigs from cleared ground, it would take dirt and all
I removed everything other tooth and even though it would still take some dirt it did a much better job
Never did put those teeth back in
Try everything other one and if your still not happy do the two out and one in

thanks! that is my current plan!

rockwind1 · Jan 24, 2022

(quoted from post at 18:11:49 01/24/22) That ought to work. Your 850 have a Draft control? If so, set it for light duty and that might help if you are on flat ground.

i don't think it has draft control but i also don't know exactly what that is,, i will google it. i wish my tractor had DAFT control though, i can't seem to remember anything!

i just googled it,, it seems possible my tractor might have draft control!! it's like finding a 20 in a jacket i haven't worn in a long time!

This post was edited by rockwind1 on 01/24/2022 at 09:45 pm.

Texasmark · Jan 25, 2022

Draft Control is the second lever on tractors so equipped. The other lever is Position Control. On Fords there is a selector lever
under the seat where you can select.

Position Control just positions the 3 point wherever you set it.

Draft Control and Position Control work together to position the implement in the desired position and when the pressure on the top
link (3rd member) increases (due to the load on the implement) it lifts the 3pt. lift arms a certain amount depending on where you
set the levers and the size of the resistance encountered.

It was designed by Ferguson mainly for fields where the load on the tractor vaired due to topography, varying moisture or soil
density conditions, hitting a tree root, or a rock and such...kept the front tires on the ground and you in the seat, rather than the
converse. Takes some playing with both levers to get the desired response for the specific job at hand.

rockwind1 · Jan 26, 2022

(quoted from post at 16:19:59 01/25/22) Draft Control is the second lever on tractors so equipped. The other lever is Position Control. On Fords there is a selector lever
under the seat where you can select.

Position Control just positions the 3 point wherever you set it.

Draft Control and Position Control work together to position the implement in the desired position and when the pressure on the top
link (3rd member) increases (due to the load on the implement) it lifts the 3pt. lift arms a certain amount depending on where you
set the levers and the size of the resistance encountered.

It was designed by Ferguson mainly for fields where the load on the tractor vaired due to topography, varying moisture or soil
density conditions, hitting a tree root, or a rock and such...kept the front tires on the ground and you in the seat, rather than the
converse. Takes some playing with both levers to get the desired response for the specific job at hand.

well, i will double check, i don't remember seeing it,, there was the pto engage lever,, and the 3 pt lift but i don't recall seeing it but hopefully i just missed it

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