can this antique disc be picked up?

petebert · Apr 12, 2021

Is there any way to pick this up with a loader to move it around? It'd be nice to move it without leaving grooves in the ground. Wasn't sure if I could attach on anywhere or if it would collapse if I tried.

Also, what about lubricating it? No zerks on this thing, maybe spray some oil on the axles where it looks like there's metal to metal?

495man · Apr 12, 2021

Not familiar with that disk, but if it has any flex to it you will have a pretzel if you lift it wrong.

I've moved a few old drag disks and success usually required some disassembly.

Mike(NEOhio) · Apr 12, 2021

Trip the lever and pull out the tongue. The gangs will straighten and it will roll.

petebert · Apr 12, 2021

Awesome I'll give it a try. I don't move it much but when I do it tears everything up behind it.

old · Apr 12, 2021

If it where mine I'd pin a chain to the place it hooks to the draw bar and lift it from there. As you lift move with it so as it comes up it is not dragging on the ground and lower it so it lower the same way

rustred · Apr 12, 2021

put a rope on the trip lever tie it to your tractor seat . them when you want it undeepened pull the rope the gangs will run straight. that
is the way they were before hydraulics. and yes they have grease zerks on each boxing. i did a lot of disking with that style disc ( john
deere) and had to grease it every few hrs.

rustred · Apr 12, 2021

can tell u have never used a disc like that.

P I Pete · Apr 12, 2021

Not to be a smart --- but if I remember correctly, pull lever and back up, going forward will increase
angle.

Pete

rustred · Apr 12, 2021

that is correct.

Alvin 41 · Apr 12, 2021

I've got one of those 5' by 2' connectors to the rear gang in a back shed . Ours was a Moline of the 40's and cut 12' behind a UB tractor. To go a mile or more on the road it was easily disassembled into 4 sections and rolled on to a flat wagon .

old · Apr 12, 2021

I have lifted loaded move etc. thousands of piece of equipment using loaders etc. Big small or what even on to you name it. I have 19. million miles of driving history be it motorcycle car truck 6, 8, 10, 18 wheel and many type of loads and not just in the U.S.A. but in places like Scotland

flying belgian · Apr 12, 2021

Look very closely. There has got to be zerks on it. Also like others said, trip lever and it will straiten out for transport.

Loosehandle · Apr 13, 2021

And take out stones

Blackhole49 · Apr 13, 2021

Talk about out your AZZ. That's 1,000 miles a day, every day, for 52 years. That sub. you served on must have been during WWII to claim that many miles. Even then????

couv · Apr 13, 2021

The IH versions of these disks had wooden
bearings on the axles. The bearing boxes
should have zerks, so clean it well, and
look for threaded holes and the zerks
have fallen out

petebert · Apr 13, 2021

Here's a bunch of pictures, no zerks to be found unless they rusted smooth with the housing. I found some casting numbers, B3622 and other B3620. Looks like I found a MM and Made in USA. It looks like the housings split in half. I'm guessing they expected you to take the U-bolt off and drop the axle to service them. And yes a little bit of googling with these casting numbers and Moline leads to talks of wooden bearings.

flying belgian · Apr 13, 2021

Right. Anytime I see weights on a plow or disk it tells me that person doesn't know how to properly adjust the implement.

rustred · Apr 13, 2021

boy i have heard it all now, get the manure spreader out, you could even stand behind it while unloading! what have you not done? and the other day calling us trolls. better look in the mirror.

petebert · Apr 13, 2021

It worked, I was surprised it wasn't too rusted to work but I was actually able to pull the lever. Then I worked it back and forth and it started to slide. And yeah it barely cuts into the yard in the straightened position.

plowhand · Apr 13, 2021

the way it looks here I dont think you guys like each other?

rustred · Apr 13, 2021

thats a pretty good observation plowman. people can b.s. me all they want but i been around long enough to know those, and it all comes out in the wash.

plowhand · Apr 13, 2021

As long as noone gets real mad someone could get..

rustred · Apr 13, 2021

yes , thats a good wake up call.

Tech 7 · Apr 13, 2021

Dad had the identical disk, referred to it as a Waterloo so I guess thats pretty close to MM. There was at one time in his
basement an oily package of boxingsas he called them, oil impregnated hardwood bearings for the disk. No idea what became
of them, bet the disk is still buried in the fence line

rustred · Apr 14, 2021

There u go! Thats the way its done. Oil that hitch up where it slides due to the rust and ur good. They did not pick those discs up in the early days , even the horse disc has the same principle when you sat on it. It had two levers for angling the disc.

marloweg · Apr 15, 2021

should be between the two u bolt nuts clean out the dirt in the hole

AlanK · Apr 17, 2021

That is a model 11A or 11B MM disk. That was their first tandem disk. They have wooden bearings in them, no zerks to grease. Nice find. There arent many of them around but especially that small of one.

showcrop · Apr 18, 2021

It sounds like you are set with moving it, but I will still discourage you from picking it up by the hitch point with a loader to move it. Driving a loader tractor around with the bucket in the air is always discouraged. Driving a loader tractor around with a load in it or hanging under it is far worse and far more dangerous. A load that is free to swing is more dangerous yet, and should never be done let alone suggest that anyone do it.

petebert · Apr 19, 2021

Googled those model numbers and it looks like you can still get a manual for it. It actually came with the property so I've been using it a little bit as it was set for 9 years now. Not much, just doing stuff in a half acre garden area.

I do some winter forage for the sheep and how it was set it could barely cut into the hard summer soil but it could scratch it up just enough to seed forage type stuff pretty well. One pass around to scratch the surface, broadcast, another pass around to bury and everything has actually come in pretty well.

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