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Farmall Charlie

02-22-2021 18:20:39




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Hello.

I am curious, I have 2 international super MTAs that were my great grandpas. I just want some general information on some of the practices of that era.

Planting ( pull type or mounted)

Haying (bails or lose hay)

What was more common then the combine or the threshing Machine.

I am just wondering what it would have been like when the M was the biggest on the market. I have done some plowing with it and have enjoyed it. I might do some food plots with it this year.
Just looking for information
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Charlie

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Farmallb

02-25-2021 14:02:42




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
I dont see what era your talking about, so Ill guess tween 40 and 60. Plows were pull type. Mostly rubber tired, but still many steel ones lying around not being used. Disc pull type either wing or tandem. Planter for a H or a M usually, but not always IHC 2 row mounted, OR rubber tired pull type, rope trip. Cultivator 2 row mounted. Mower simi mounted, All this for an H. With a M, which we had, but didnt use it fdor any mounted equipment as dad had gone to JD A & B by that time.

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Farmall Charlie

02-24-2021 12:59:39




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
But... overall... the one thing that I remember being a hallmark of the days of the Super M-TA, and the Farmall 460 for that matter... is the breakneck rides down slopes, if you had engaged the TA going up hill and forgot to disengage going back down. Those one-way clutches in the TA were... um... fun and interesting...[/quote]

I have heard many stories about the TA in those tractor. My grandpa grew up on one and he made that mistake once.... only once. He also said that my great grandpa had a john deere A (maybe) and his brother was going down hill with it and pulled the hand clutch and was flying by the time he reached the bottom.

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lastcowboy32

02-24-2021 07:09:03




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
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Most people with M's around here had made the switch to baled hay. The first hay balers were available in both square and round...not the big round bales like you see now... little round bales about the size of a small square.
The Allis Chalmers "Roto-baler" would be contemporary with the M-TA. They made little tootsie roll bales about three feet long and maybe a foot in diameter... give or take.

Early models of New Holland and John Deere balers would also have been contemporary.

The M-TA came out before mower-conditioners, or "haybines"; so people like my father would use a sickle bar mower and a "crusher"... so it would take two passes to cut and condition the hay

The M-TA also had International/Farmall's "Fast Hitch". I remember my father having a set of three bottom plows with the male fast hitch adapter, designed to go into the female end on old Farmall tractors.
I was the youngest, so by the time that I came around in 1969, dad was in the process of upgrading to a 460 and 706 Farmall, also both with Fast Hitches. With the bigger tractors, dad sold the three bottom plows and got a set of four bottom plows with the fast hitch, for the 706. (and then an 856 about seven years later).

At the time of the changeover, the M-TA was pulling the crusher and baling with a New Holland 273. The mowing was done with a self propelled windrower (I was too young to remember the make/model... I DO remember its demise, though... it was parked by the road, and some enterprising gentlemen removed its engine in the dark of night.. It had a standard automobile engine just sort of crudely mounted in the chassis... an easy mark.

At that point, dad got a New Holland 469 haybine, which the M would pull sometimes... sometimes the 460 and sometimes the 706.

But... overall... the one thing that I remember being a hallmark of the days of the Super M-TA, and the Farmall 460 for that matter... is the breakneck rides down slopes, if you had engaged the TA going up hill and forgot to disengage going back down. Those one-way clutches in the TA were... um... fun and interesting...

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Farmall Charlie

02-23-2021 08:05:37




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
Thanks for everyone's information.



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Farmall Charlie

02-23-2021 08:04:50




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
what would the model be for a planter of that era?

Just looking for information
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Charlie



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paul

02-23-2021 12:20:31




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-23-2021 08:04:50  
IHC did pretty good with their 56 model planter. That would be towards the end of the M timeline.

Here it was pretty common to mix and match equipment, lot of Green planters were pulled by Red tractors, Oliver plows were pulled by all colors of tractors, etc. so I cant even think of the older IHC planters. But, the model M Mcormick IHC grain drill is still about the most popular grain drill around here.

Not so much brand loyalty here.

Paul

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Duner Wi

02-23-2021 09:06:29




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-23-2021 08:04:50  
IH corn planter Model 249 or 250 would be close. I know they sold the 250 into the 60s.
250 in 1963 cost $450.00 with fertilizer attachment.



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rrlund

02-23-2021 06:09:10




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
I don't know what backwards corner of the world some people live in, but a Super MTA would have been in an era with a hydraulic lift pull type plow, pull type corn planter most likely, but I believe you could get a mounted planter for them, rubber tired grain drill, pull type combine and a baler.



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Traditional Farmer

02-23-2021 04:35:35




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
On the neighboring farm that I now cut hay on there is a shed with 5 or 6 pieces of equipment all put in there in the 1960's and never used again mostly in good condition.JD Van Brunt drill,David Bradley corn planter,Ferguson rake, among other implements.



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dannye

02-22-2021 19:34:51




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
Early 50s, pull type planters, lose hay, threshing machines. Anyway that is what I grew up with on a 120 acre farm in so central mn, with a 44 Farmall
H and a team of Belgian horses.



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paul

02-22-2021 19:28:42




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to Farmall Charlie, 02-22-2021 18:20:39  
Pull type planter. Some areas might have had a front mount 2 row somewhat common, not up here.

That would have covered the transition from loose to baled hay. Both.

Pull type combine. Ear corn picker.

Paul



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flying belgian

02-22-2021 20:02:43




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to paul, 02-22-2021 19:28:42  
And every square inch fall plowed with a moldboard plow.



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svcummins

02-23-2021 04:04:26




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to flying belgian, 02-22-2021 20:02:43  
We still plowed everything acre into the 90s



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paul

02-23-2021 12:13:39




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 Re: Back in the day equipment in reply to svcummins, 02-23-2021 04:04:26  
Neighbor plows all cornstalks, several thousand acres. Others in the greater area do as well. I plowed into the 2000s, I have chiseled since but did buy a 6 botto plow last summer, want to do a little agsin.

Paul



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