New Holland Baler RANT

Welding man

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West Virginia
Customer brought in a NH BR7060 Round baler. He said it had a bad bearing. It has baled around 8000 Bales. Our experience with these balers is at 10,000 Bales problems start to show up. We check it out and find he has a bad bearing in the sledge assembly. Quite a bit of work to get it out, so I told him,given the number of bales it has baled we probably need to replace all the bearings while we are in there, he agreed. Check with NH and guess what? They will not sell you the 2 bearings that we need! You have to buy the gears with the bearings inside at a whopping 373.70 each x2. The idler gear bearing is available at 51.23 and the other 2 bearings are 171.70 and 47.35 respectively. Over a grand for 5 bearings.This baler must have close to 25 bearings. No wonder a new baler costs $45,000.00.
 
The use of sealed bearings on all equipment,cars and trucks ensures a limited lifespan. If only these could be greased, things would last.
 
Welcome to the modern world getting a lot more things like that there isn’t and even if you can sometimes get the part it’s cheaper or as cheap to buy the whole assembly which I don’t quite understand probably because everything is made in China
 

My 1st JD 467 rd baler which was a 2000 model had 30,000 on it when I traded on current baler to get netwrap. My '07 JD 467 rd baler is approaching 27,000 bales & IIRC I've replaced 3 brgs on it. I'm glad my rd baler doesn't have sledge gears & sledge rollers.
 
The guy I have bale mine has a BC5060. Baling my neighbor's hay Sat. and a spring on one of the hay dogs broke loose and wrapped around the bill hook. It broke the ear off the knotter frame casting. $1600 just for the part and the dealer couldn't send a man out for the repair.
 
We replaced bearings in 3 balers in the last couple of weeks,2 Hesstons and a Vermeer, A and I had them all but not for this one New Holland seems to have these locked up tight. The sad part is there are more New Holland balers in my part of the country than any other brand.
 
Not a baler but, 3 or 4 of the pieces that we needed for the transmission for our Ford 6610 we could not get (same part). There's one in the country and it $90 bucks. Plastic washer. We ended up using snap rings and wielding the gap in the ring. We filled the gap on both side of the shaft (= on both). The transmission is a lot tighter than before. Piece of plastic and the snap ring washer
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Fords can be hard to get parts . Ford kept the rights to the
parts for the ford tractors . When I worked at new Holland we
had quite a time getting parts for some things
 
(quoted from post at 18:47:42 07/11/20) Fords can be hard to get parts . Ford kept the rights to the
parts for the ford tractors . When I worked at new Holland we
had quite a time getting parts for some things

John Deere is worse and more money.
 
(quoted from post at 08:17:22 07/12/20)

John Deere is worse and more money.

I'm not stating or implying JD parts aren't HIGH $$$$$$$ BUT so are Kubota,Ford & Krone HIGH $$$$$$$. I know because I buy parts for all of those brands.
 
This doesn't work for everything, but I try to buy old. If it's been working for 70 years, fifty minimum, chances are it was made right and will be dependable. That also was before the modern company "we don't care" mentality you're dealing with on your baler.
 
When people at the hay auction complain about hay prices I tell them to stop by the NH dealer and check prices. I recently had to replace the bushing on the upper roller arm in a NH 389 which requires removal of the upper crimper roll bearing. NH wanted $150.00 for the bearing. I found it for $40.00 from a bearing supply house. Turned out I was able to pull the existing bearing. Usually have to cut off the shaft. But since I had already purchased a new bearing it came off.
 
Those bearings with gears are available in the aftermarket significantly cheaper. I've been told you can remove the bearing and source it elsewhere (over 20k bales on the last two NH balers and havent had to do a single bearing yet). Parts for all of them are expensive just pick your poison on color.
 

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