John Deere 24t baler

Ohm · Jun 27, 2020

Found a baler I want, but it has an issue. It wil bale 10 to 15 bales and start
missing knots. The cutters, build up short strands of twine and cligs up?
I think I would change over to a diffrent twine, but I have no other ideas.
Any suggestions or guidance would be appreciated

MJMJ · Jun 27, 2020

There are a number of things that can cause similar issues. Fastest way Ive found to determine the problem is to get a manual, rotate the flywheel by hand and check all the specs the manual calls out as it goes through the process.

Ohm · Jun 27, 2020

Have the manual coming.

rustred · Jun 27, 2020

for starters you need the knives sharp so you get a nice clean cut on the twine.

wore out · Jun 27, 2020

Are you saying BOTH knotters are missing at the same time?

Be sure needle brake is snug enough that the knotters aren't wiggling around between tie cycles.

Another thing the two knotters have in common is the "tucker fingers".

If the mechanism that operates them is sticky (I've seen the mechanism bent, as well, the results of a bent or broken needle), and doesn't return as it should, then operate as needed to move the tine to the billhooks there will be missed knots.

showcrop · Jun 27, 2020

"The cutters, build up short strands of twine and cligs up"

Could this be interpreted to mean that you are getting a lot of short pieces of twine under the knotters that are clogging something?

Ohm · Jun 27, 2020

(quoted from post at 14:27:35 06/27/20)

"The cutters, build up short strands of twine and cligs up"

Could this be interpreted to mean that you are getting a lot of short pieces of twine under the knotters that are clogging something?

Yes!

Ohm · Jun 27, 2020

Yes needles are fine, everything appears as it should..
By the way I am waiting on thr manual before I mess with it. Looking for ideas of where to look

wore out · Jun 28, 2020

So, did you check out the tucker fingers?

Ohm · Jun 28, 2020

They seem good, but to be honst not 100% sure what they are supposed to be like. Awaiting the manual.

showcrop · Jun 28, 2020

Ohm, those short pieces of twine are normal for a JD baler. I never saw that they were a problem with my 336. The tucker fingers push the twine to the twin discs from the needles. They are driven by arms that extend down from a shaft that is ahead of the knotters and runs side to side and is about nine inches long. The two links that connect the fingers to the arms can get bent. And if the machine gets rusty the surface that the fingers mount on can become unstable so that the fingers don't work reliably. They are known to be a leading cause of JD knotter problems.

Ohm · Jun 28, 2020

Sounds like it would be a maintenance issue then? Clean the rust and varify
connection is straight.

showcrop · Jun 29, 2020

(quoted from post at 19:15:43 06/28/20) Sounds like it would be a maintenance issue then? Clean the rust and varify
connection is straight.

What you need to do is clean most of the hay out of the baler, so that you can turn it over by hand. Then with the tension off, trip the knotters and slowly turn it and watch what it does. This should show you where the problem lies. Also verify that all of the hay dogs are moving freely. If more than one is stuck it will have problems knotting. After every cycle of he knotters, add a little hay to give the twine something to go around, but don't let pressure build up or wou will not be able to turn it by hand. My 336 which had "always been shedded" had bad rust under the knotters. I cut it out and welded new material in.

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