I noticed on Facebook marketplace

I have no facts to back this up, so, its only my opinion or shall we call it a "guess'. But my guess is that New Holland probably had a significant portion of the small square baler market for several years so there are justmore of them outthere. As their owners quit doing smalls they are coming up for sale. This is all just a guess, I have no facts to back it up. So whats your guess as to why there are more small NH balers on fb marketplace than any other, gobble
 
Around here NH was the King for small balers.. JD was second then IH, once the hesston/caseih inlines came out things changed. But there are still alot of NH little balers used or tucked away in the shed as a back up when the new inline doesnt work..
 
Curious. I was just talking the other day with my dad that there are more old John Deere balers than New Holland balers--by 2:1 at least. We guessed that's because they're so much better in the knotter department. Hmmm. Maybe it's just where we live.
 
I don’t know anything about Facebook, but out on the farms around here NH is over 50% of the small square market, JD is a distant second, and a few IHC machines scattered in rarely.

Paul
 
From what I see in the posts, it sounds like NH was for parts of the country the baler of choice, not necessarly because there was so many of them on facebook marketplace because they were a bad baler
 
Dad had one New Idea back when I was real little, then all we had was one Ford and three New Hollands. Lots of dealers for different brands sold New Holland around here.
 
I would say 75% of squares balers around here are NH. we run all green equipment but hay stuff is mostly NH or claas.
 
NH was not a bad baler at all,, one of the very Best actually,, Freeman was the Best one but cost three to five times was a similar sized other brand baler did,, I have ran millions of bales through NH balers,, from what I remember you talking about I will bet was a well used and never maintenance'ed machine,, when you bale 200K a year with one every year for over 30 years The SAME baler too you may get a clue to what is good and whats not,, its Real easy you do not want a NH DO NOT buy one there see how easy that was,, JD made a good baler for sure,, should be plenty of those around also,, a in-line Hesston,, are also top shelf units I guess its on what you are willing to spend on one,, also a baler is only as good as the person running and working on it is,, I have fixed hundreds and hundreds of ones that someone who thought they knew how to adjust them worked on,, there are few of what I call a real operator out there there are far less people who actually have a clue about what to do when a baler is not working like it should,, a properly adjusted baler will miss less than 1 bale in a thousand,,,
 
I’m not sure what you are trying to say there.

NH was a baler/ hay and forage equipment company.

If they made poor stuff they would fold up and go away, they had nothing else to sell.

To be the most popular small square baler out there, they had to have a good working baler.

And they did.

From the 1950s to the 1970s nobody else made anything as good. When you got one of these balers, you didn’t need to buy another one, so you ran a New Holland baler for decades.

JD got pretty good pretty fast and were a close second.

IHC do ok in the last couple models they made, not as good as the other 2, but pretty good.

New Holland is the top of the pack on small square balers for the small farmer market. NH developed the foolproof working knotters first, and that is what a small square baler is all about. Tying knots over and over and over without fail.

As someone mentioned, Freeman made an industrial serious packing monster windrow eating baler that churned out big heavy small square bales, they were popular in the arid west where there were huge acres of hay to cover, and you bale all night long, want to ship very tight packed bales longer distances. They were, sort of, the early version of what the big square balers do now. Pack big heavy bales for transport. They didn’t fit well here in the Midwest on a 40 cow dairy farm so I never see any, but the Freeman was probably the Cadillac of small square balers.

New Holland is the working model for the common farm.

Paul
 
Allis Chalmers dealers used to be some of the biggest NH dealers around here. AC only had those roto balers and left handed choppers to sell, so NH was their primary source of forage equipment.
 
You have to look at the early balers to understand market share. Deere had the 114 and 116 which delivered the bales out the side.Worked but not popular. New Holland came out with the model 66 which was a family farm sized baler that was priced right and a good baler. If you had a good baler most often your next one was the same brand. Deere caught up with the 66 when the 14t came out and they sold lots of them as well as 24t's but NH was ahead and stayed there. When the bale throwers came out you had the Deere pan or the NH belt thrower and you liked what you liked and hated the other. New Holland had the 273 and 275's but got a little lazy in making improvements and when Deere came with the 336 and the hyd. bale thrower they really began to catch up with NH in baler sales and maybe even passed them for a short time. NH made some improvements and came with new models and got back in the game real fast. One issue with NH equipment is that it is all built a little to light. Twisted bale cases and rusted out knotter frames are far to common on the NH machines. I was originally from MD and there we had 2 NH balers for every one Deere (We were 100 miles from the NH plant)but here in southwest WI there might be more Deere than NH balers. A deere dealer than worked on lots of NH balers told me many knotter parts can be interchanged. Dad started with a 24t and liked it untill he added a mechanical bale thrower. Traded that on a new NH273 and replaced that with another 24t with a hyd. bale thrower (fell out with the dealer). Then bought a new 327 Deere. I grew up with the Deere hyd. bale thrower so that is what I prefer but in heavy hay and big windrows the NH thrower will have more capacity as the Deere pan can only kick bales so fast before it hits the next bale coming out of the chamber. Tom
 
Thats the problem I found on trying to find someone to work on my 140 W Case baler. All who knew anything about square balers are in nursing homes or pushing up daisies
 
I am far from in a nursing home or pushing up daises,, and I know others as well,, balers are balers and all are repaired/adjusted in the same basic way,, you was asking about a wire tie and yes those who know them are not as plentiful as string ties guys are but we are still around,, you needed needles for it,, most of them was crushed in the great iron salvage of a few years back,, so they are not super easy to find,, I seen no reason to go through the steps to get yours to tie when you had no needles,, they are much easier to repair than a string knotter is,, and you are a long ways form me if I did still do service calls,, I have all but shut down my repair shop to others,, but not because I am to old but do to the fact I have done it some many decades I grew tired of it,, and I just do my own haying and repairs these days,, a thousand acres still keeps me busy,, I have cut back on that also as I used to run 3500 acres, my point is there are still a number of us left working today but many like me have grown really tired of the work,, few seldom appreciate anything we do for them and only complain when we do not have time or want to anymore,, I answer LOTS of questions on other pages I run still to this day,, I would say thousands a year is a low guess,, this site I very seldom comment any more,, for the reasons I stated above,,
 
When I was in my early mid 20s I hired a baler man to put up my hay and he had one of those side shooters. Also, a guy I worked with had gotten one.
 

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My first baler was a 24t. Eventually I figured out how to get it to run, tie and throw. Those PTO driven #2 kickers would beat themselves to pieces. But green balers match my green tractors. The JD dealer is only 15 miles away. New holland is 50 miles from here so many of the balers around are NH. I noticed the Amish almost always run NH. The local BTO traded his 336 for a higher capacity NH. They only bale straw but can move 2x faster than I can.
 

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