New Holland 489 haybine questions

Handsome Devil · Jun 12, 2020

Just picked up but have not used this NH 489. My old haybine was a 469 so you know I run antiques. Bought service and operators manual. Between looking for obvious places and checking against the book I found my zerk fittings to grease. On the reel the drive end has a hole for a zerk fitting but none there {I have plenty of them I can install} and the other end doesn't appear to be drilled for one but shows one in the book. Both are shown on a small pipe to make greasing easier as the guards made it difficult to get down into the area. Q: did NH do away with those grease fittings or did previous owner neglect to fix them after they came off? I am going back out and see if I can get one in the hole I did find and take a flash lite and see if I can find any hole in the bearing housing on the non drive side. Thanks in advance. Need to check my gear boxes and hope for the best. Again thanks. Regards, John.

stevob671 · Jun 12, 2020

I bought a new to me 479 but did look at some 488's and 489's. I was surprised to see it looks like they did away with zerks and only have bushings. Less time greasing I guess. Also checked new holland parts diagrams and they do not show zerks. I did find a decent 479 which does have old school zerks.

centash · Jun 12, 2020

There are grease fittings on both ends of the reel on my 489. The right hand side
is accessible through the slot but the fitting has no pipe, so you need a long
grease gun to get at it. The left hand side is accessed through the long narrow
door next to the reel. 3 fittings on each of the drive shafts, one on the knife
head, one on each of the three u joints on the pto, and one or two more in front of
the rear door. Good machine, the head is better balanced than the 488, so less
chance of breaking guards.

Ben

Handsome Devil · Jun 12, 2020

(quoted from post at 17:46:47 06/12/20) There are grease fittings on both ends of the reel on my 489. The right hand side
is accessible through the slot but the fitting has no pipe, so you need a long
grease gun to get at it. The left hand side is accessed through the long narrow
door next to the reel. 3 fittings on each of the drive shafts, one on the knife
head, one on each of the three u joints on the pto, and one or two more in front of
the rear door. Good machine, the head is better balanced than the 488, so less
chance of breaking guards.

Thanks for your help. I brought my book out and followed it. Found the zerks on the PTO and under the tool box in back end. Found the zerk with pipe in tool box and put it back on after cleaning it and the hole it went in. Ran out of day lite and steam so I didn't tackle the dead end of the reel yet. I have to take part or cover off to access it. I will cut a hole in cover plate and a 90 degree zerk so I can access it when I am done. Found a few that were in the book but not on the machine. The adjusting threaded rod for tensioning the rolls I think? and did not find one on the knife head. Will have to use flash lite to see if it broke off or fell off. Moved close to my shop and will check these and my gear boxes for fluid level. I think this thing is going to work well all seems pretty decent so far and runs much quieter than my old worn out 469. That like my baler was worn out when I bought it 30 years or so ago. Served me well but the wobble box and other bearing went out, was ready to throw in the towel with that one. The price of a wobble box and overall condition made me want to not fix it. It served me well and now time to let it go. I might be able to go faster with the 489 too. But I have learned not to push to hard. Thanks for your replies. Regards, John.

Ben

SVcummins · Jun 13, 2020

Most of us run antiques that’s why we’re here

Northvale PA · Jun 13, 2020

My 469 was missing one of the reel zerks and I did not replace or grease it fast enough. The reel shaft
chewed down thru the bearing and frame once the old grease ran out. What a mess. Never again.
Grease everything and replace any missing asap. Those Haybines have a slew of moving parts and
they constantly chew themselves up if not greased well.

Handsome Devil · Jun 13, 2020

(quoted from post at 02:52:19 06/13/20) My 469 was missing one of the reel zerks and I did not replace or grease it fast enough. The reel shaft
chewed down thru the bearing and frame once the old grease ran out. What a mess. Never again.
Grease everything and replace any missing asap. Those Haybines have a slew of moving parts and
they constantly chew themselves up if not greased well.

Wow you must of ran it for a long time to burn through bearing and housing. Well thanks for the warning. I replaced any missing zerks and had to put one in the sickle as found the hole but had to tap it put in zerk and it wouldn't take grease wondering if the bushing on these have to be lined up for grease hole? My 469 had no provision for greasing other than manually taking the bolt out and greasing it. Maybe newer models did but none of my sickles were set up nor were the bushings. Finally I am ready to go to town and get some 80/90 wt for the gear boxes. Wobble box was full enough but the other two gear boxes need a drink. One positive note the sickle bolt was well greased so the previous owner must of manually greased it. Found the hole for the dead end reel zerk and found a pipe to put in there so easy to reach with grease gun. Other wise I was going to cut an access hole through the cover or just leave the cover off which I didn't want to do. I am a day late in doing all this pre-trip inspection as I wanted to cut hay today but I want to get off on the right foot with this machine in case I live longer than I expect. Now to adjust the damper and I should be good to go. Have to start cutting before I decide where I am leaving the damper set.. Thanks again for the help and advise. My equipment lasts a long time but I grease religiously and don't push it harder than the happy calolopie of noise it makes without breaking down. Regards, John.

Handsome Devil · Jun 14, 2020

An update with a couple more questions if you all don't mind. I cut about 5-6 acres of grass/alfalfa and some weeds. At first the haybine sounded like it was going to self destruct so stopped and checked my cutter bolt. I think I put a washer on wrong end? Switched the washer to bottom with lock washer on top? No real difference in the pounding. I switched tractors as the 460 I was using has to fast a first gear. That made a difference as my 560 has a very slow 1st gear. I am not happy with the quality of cut. The knife looks new but I think the rock guards might need replacing. I found a set of new clips in the tool box. Bought this from an estate 2 miles down the road and never met previous owner so I do not know the condition or his plans for this? Seems to not be cutting as well as I like. Am think the rock guards and clips need replacing. I know none of you are here to look at this, but does it sound like the right track. I had put new rock guards and clips on my 469 and it cut much better just before the wobble box passed on. Other than rather noisy but I may have forgotten how noisy these haybines are. Hired a guy to cut my hay the last 3 years so have been away from haybines that long. It did plug up on me once in some patch of grass that didn't like being cut I guess. The last two cuts I had to watch that area. Loosened up the rolls and that helped as it was the rolls that jammed up. I hate it when that happens. Other wise it worked well for the first time out once I got a slower tractor. The guy who cut my hay had a modern JD self propelled discbine that didn't cut my grassy field very good but cut alfalfa fields like a finish mower. So maybe I am expecting too much, but I think my worn out 469 left a better looking field after cutting. Will probably change those parts after first crop is done. Got a lot of sticks in the fire and don't think I will get it done very fast if I try to do it before I finish that field. Thanks again for the advice and suggestions. Regards, John.

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