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Fordfarmer

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I asked here last fall about an IH 46 baler my son was looking at possibly buying. We only got to try it once on straw, and couldn't get it to tie a bale. After some looking and head scratching, all we came up with was that the hay dogs weren't moving. The upper ones were stuck (rust) in the raised position, and the lower ones had broken springs. PB Blaster, a hammer, and some $.80 hardware store springs, and Luke used it yesterday to pick up the rest of the hay, while I was waiting on parts for my New Holland. It missed a few, but Luke said it got better the longer he used it. Probably just getting parts polished up after years of sitting.
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I have had the springs fall out of my hay dogs and end up with a tying problem. A 46 will do pretty well tying if everything is set right on them. Its well worth the money to get a manual for them. I've spend a lot of time reading mine. Biggest problem I have with mine is getting quality twine. Sisal twine isn't what it used to be. I use 9000 twine and you can see thin places sometimes in it and it can break there. I've been going to try 7200 twine in mine but I haven't yet.
 
I whole heartedly agree on the book. Well worth the 40 bucks or so.Adjust everything 'by the book',in the order of the book.Unless it is completely worn out,or broken parts,it will tie,every time.Binder Books;JenSales;Ebay are scources.
 
I gave up on 9000 sisal several years ago, and use poly in my baler. Going by the recommendations here, we put 7200 sisal in Luke's baler. It's more consistent than the 9000, but not perfectly uniform.
The guy he bought it from gave him a manual for it - an assembly manual, I think. We bought an original owner's manual off Ebay last fall. That was a big help, because all I've run are NH balers.
 

It is pretty tough for the twine disc to grab the twine from the needle without the help of the hay dogs.
 
The manual doesn't recommend poly for that knotter. I'm not sure what changes to make it usable but it is a baler that goes back further than poly. The original manual was I think 4 manuals, printed by subject. One was only for the knotter. If you buy manuals you should get them all as a set.
 
My first baler was a 46, and it worked very well for many years, switched to round bales and sold it. Years later the opportunity came up to buy a IH 47 with kicker and two wagons for 2Grand, bought it to bale straw. Much the same machine, and it also made good bales. Couldn’t get help to do small squares anymore and sold the wagons, baler still sitting in my shed. I would like to see it go, but never can find anyone that wants a old IH baler. They were every bit as good as the NH balers built at the same time. And keeping the knotters rust free was always key to small square balers working properly.
 
I had a 47 IH baler for quite a while too till replaced with JD 336. I bought the 47 with broken needles and a timing issue which I fixed, welded the needles and then it was good. The kicker worked good if you kept good belts on it. I hated the cost of the “double v” belt that ran all the pulleys on the kicker. When I got mine the fellow I bought it from had put a couple wood screws in the rear bottom roller of the kicker that stuck out a little ( to help grab the bales better?) . When I turned the kicker one way ( forgot which way it was) those screws would grab into the twine and break it. I had a lot of fun figuring that out, I blamed it on the knotter and then bad twine till I noticed it only happened with the kicker turned a certain way and removed the screws. Nothing like a load of hay with 5-6 broken bales.
 
Manual could not yet recomend poly as it was not yet made when baler and book were made. Tried poly once and hated it.
 
Yep! And they both blew out on the way home from the field that day.🙄 It may get a single 9.5L-15.
Looking through the book, I see that even some of the shields are listed as "optional".
 
I should have been clearer... Luke's baler, the 46, gets 7200 sisal. I use 9000 poly in my NH 565. Harder on the fingers when you pick them up, but far fewer missed bales, and about 1/3 less than 9000 sisal.
 
Boy that’s my kinda luck right there . I have 440 ih and the shows several of the shields optional on it . How does the dual wheel attach ?
 

SV, the manual for my baler shows an optional two wheel kit. It is just a matter of remove the wheel and slip the walking beam on in place of it.
 
Hub has 12 threaded holes, 6 for the inner wheel and 6 for the dual. Inner wheel has 12 lug holes, and dual wheel has 12 lug holes, with 6 of them being oversize, to clear the heads of the lugs holding the inner wheel.
 
Never saw a baler setup like that but with standard type dual and pull type combines as well and always on heavy side.
 


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Hey fordfarmer. Unrelated to this post but you dont have an email listed. I was researching one Thaddeus Haynes and I came across an old post you made mentioning that you were related to him. Can you email me or provide me with your email? I have some interesting information for you.
 
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