Disc Plow help

Devron30

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I am new to the tractor world etc. Bought a property and A 49 ford 8n. I was looking for a disc plow for it and came across one so I bought it. After buying I believe it is to big for my tractor. Can someone please give me some know how on my disc and what my tractor can handle. Using for food plots.
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That is a FINNISHING disk to be used after you are done plowing, it is not a plow in any way.
 
As noted, it is a finishing disk. It is an OK size for a good 8N. It will smooth out the already turned soil from a mold board plow, or a real disk plow. See
attached. The disk plow will pull a little easier than the mold board type. Either will be OK for primary tillage. Jim
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why do you guys call it a disc plow??? its either a disc or a plow. never could figure out that disc plow thing. what you have is a disc. you plow the field first with a plow, then a disc is used to over the plowed field to smoothen it such as for a seed bed. depending on the field your 8n should pull that, but on a freshly plowed field it will be a load.
 
That disc will not cut very well with both gangs at
that flat of an angle it might work ok on plowed
ground but i don?t think it will do anything on ground
that hasn?t been worked .
 
It is called a 3 point hitch tandem disk. It's not a plow or harrow. Those are 2
different items. If you have the same experience with N ford's that I have, yes
your unit will have trouble pulling it. You will also have trouble with the brakes
and keeping it running.
 
(quoted from post at 21:53:18 02/17/19) It is called a 3 point hitch tandem disk. It's not a plow or harrow. Those are 2
different items. If you have the same experience with N ford's that I have, yes
your unit will have trouble pulling it. You will also have trouble with the brakes
and keeping it running.

What do i do with this disc then?? I need something to use to plant food plots. Nothing spectacular just to rough up the ground.
 
That looks like a rome disc,bad angle,are the front blades facing the same way and the rear all facing the other way? If it is it, will work the ground fine without a plow.
 

That is a pretty interesting little disc. It is apparent that it was built to be very adjustable by the number of holes in the frame. It has all of that length of frame sticking out the back because the PO moved both gangs all the way to the front. If the bolts securing the gangs to the frame are removed the two gangs could be offset a lot or a little. Being three point it can be lowered all the way and work as a very aggressive offset disc or it can be lowered just three inches into the dirt with the gangs nearly straight as a finishing disc. Like 504 said it is like a Rome disc. I think that it looks like a very useful tool and a very good find. Don't worry about pulling it with your N, you can lower it only as much as you want and the weight on your tires will give you good traction. Disregard what hd6gtom said. He is a Ford hater, and refuses to recognize the three point hitch. In addition that rusty old top link sitting on it probably came with a sixty year old tractor and should be saved.

And Rust Red; why do you ask why everyone is calling it a disc plow???
 
If you are not trying to cut up sod (heavy grass) but mostly bare ground say with last years stalks dried out and rotting you should be able to do your food plots. Now if you were trying to work growing grass several inches tall it will not work as not agressive enough. And I never had a 3 point hitch disk, would not have wanted one, but for years our 1944 Ford tractor pulled a drag type, also called a pull type with just a hitch pin to pull and it was 7.5' wide back gang, section. That Ford was all Dad had to farm with from 44 to 57 when he bough a second tractor when I got old enough to drive a tractor. It was not gut for small areas like you are wanting to do but full farms. Besides that disk he had a 2-12" bottom moldboard plow (disk plows were not used in my part of country) and pulled a 8' spring tooth harrow. So yours should be able to do it. Your problems are going to be keeping the front end of tractor on ground enough to steer with that kind of weight hanging that far back and then traction. you are giong to need extra weight for that and anything except calcium will not provide enough weight. We also had homemade concrete wheel wheats we put on for ground work and I estimate them at 300-400# each. A disk plow has a very large disk blade 26"-32" mounted at angle individually instead of the standard plow bottom and depending on size and placement of the didk blade your tractor would handle either a 2 blade, 16" cut or 3 blade 24" cut that was made for it. Now newer larger dick plows will cut a foot or more wide insted of the 8" wide for the disk plow made for your tractor. And on your finnishing disk, some call it a disk harrow, front sections blades are turned ti throw dirt out back to throw in.
 
Looking again at the picture I see that someone has it very messed up the back section has to be at the back of that frame sticking out and the front section has to be moved back as it will not vlear your tractor tires especially if you angle the gangs (sections) as you will need to do to get it to cut, heavy angle first time over, then less following times and I see you are missing at least 1 blade that you need to replace as it will not work correctly with missing blades. the gangs were moved forward because of that lite weight for steering on front wheels and you CANNOT turn with the disk in the ground, you have to raise it to turn, trying to turn with it inground caneithe bend up or break the tractor hitch.
 
(quoted from post at 00:22:15 02/18/19) why do you guys call it a disc plow??? its either a disc or a plow. never could figure out that disc plow thing. what you have is a disc. you plow the field first with a plow, then a disc is used to over the plowed field to smoothen it such as for a seed bed. depending on the field your 8n should pull that, but on a freshly plowed field it will be a load.

Because there are moldboard plows that use a moldboard and disc plows that use a disc. It wouldn't help much to not have a word to differentiate the 2. A disc harrow isn't the same as a spring tooth harrow or a spike harrow. We use different words to ID the different tools. Look at the pictures int his post if you know the difference between a moldboard plow and disc plow.
 
(quoted from post at 06:39:42 02/18/19)
That is a pretty interesting little disc. It is apparent that it was built to be very adjustable by the number of holes in the frame. It has all of that length of frame sticking out the back because the PO moved both gangs all the way to the front. If the bolts securing the gangs to the frame are removed the two gangs could be offset a lot or a little. Being three point it can be lowered all the way and work as a very aggressive offset disc or it can be lowered just three inches into the dirt with the gangs nearly straight as a finishing disc. Like 504 said it is like a Rome disc. I think that it looks like a very useful tool and a very good find. Don't worry about pulling it with your N, you can lower it only as much as you want and the weight on your tires will give you good traction. Disregard what hd6gtom said. He is a Ford hater, and refuses to recognize the three point hitch. In addition that rusty old top link sitting on it probably came with a sixty year old tractor and should be saved.

And Rust Red; why do you ask why everyone is calling it a disc plow???

Thank you for the information. That being said, is this disc to heavy for my 8N to lift? What would you guess the weight of the disc is? Thank you again.
 
(quoted from post at 07:21:05 02/18/19) Looking again at the picture I see that someone has it very messed up the back section has to be at the back of that frame sticking out and the front section has to be moved back as it will not vlear your tractor tires especially if you angle the gangs (sections) as you will need to do to get it to cut, heavy angle first time over, then less following times and I see you are missing at least 1 blade that you need to replace as it will not work correctly with missing blades. the gangs were moved forward because of that lite weight for steering on front wheels and you CANNOT turn with the disk in the ground, you have to raise it to turn, trying to turn with it inground caneithe bend up or break the tractor hitch.

Leroy,
Can you explain if possible what I need to do to make this thing work. I would have no idea on how to arrange the gangs etc. Also would you think my 8n could even lift this disc?
 
(quoted from post at 08:29:57 02/18/19)
(quoted from post at 06:39:42 02/18/19)
That is a pretty interesting little disc. It is apparent that it was built to be very adjustable by the number of holes in the frame. It has all of that length of frame sticking out the back because the PO moved both gangs all the way to the front. If the bolts securing the gangs to the frame are removed the two gangs could be offset a lot or a little. Being three point it can be lowered all the way and work as a very aggressive offset disc or it can be lowered just three inches into the dirt with the gangs nearly straight as a finishing disc. Like 504 said it is like a Rome disc. I think that it looks like a very useful tool and a very good find. Don't worry about pulling it with your N, you can lower it only as much as you want and the weight on your tires will give you good traction. Disregard what hd6gtom said. He is a Ford hater, and refuses to recognize the three point hitch. In addition that rusty old top link sitting on it probably came with a sixty year old tractor and should be saved.

And Rust Red; why do you ask why everyone is calling it a disc plow???

Thank you for the information. That being said, is this disc to heavy for my 8N to lift? What would you guess the weight of the disc is? Thank you again.

Devron, try reading my post again
 
(quoted from post at 12:29:57 02/18/19)
(quoted from post at 06:39:42 02/18/19)
That is a pretty interesting little disc. It is apparent that it was built to be very adjustable by the number of holes in the frame. It has all of that length of frame sticking out the back because the PO moved both gangs all the way to the front. If the bolts securing the gangs to the frame are removed the two gangs could be offset a lot or a little. Being three point it can be lowered all the way and work as a very aggressive offset disc or it can be lowered just three inches into the dirt with the gangs nearly straight as a finishing disc. Like 504 said it is like a Rome disc. I think that it looks like a very useful tool and a very good find. Don't worry about pulling it with your N, you can lower it only as much as you want and the weight on your tires will give you good traction. Disregard what hd6gtom said. He is a Ford hater, and refuses to recognize the three point hitch. In addition that rusty old top link sitting on it probably came with a sixty year old tractor and should be saved.

And Rust Red; why do you ask why everyone is calling it a disc plow???

Thank you for the information. That being said, is this disc to heavy for my 8N to lift? What would you guess the weight of the disc is? Thank you again.

Lifting it isn't going to be as much of a problem as pulling it with an 8N if you give it enough angle to cut.
 
(quoted from post at 12:26:01 02/18/19)
(quoted from post at 00:22:15 02/18/19) why do you guys call it a disc plow??? its either a disc or a plow. never could figure out that disc plow thing. what you have is a disc. you plow the field first with a plow, then a disc is used to over the plowed field to smoothen it such as for a seed bed. depending on the field your 8n should pull that, but on a freshly plowed field it will be a load.

Because there are moldboard plows that use a moldboard and disc plows that use a disc. It wouldn't help much to not have a word to differentiate the 2. A disc harrow isn't the same as a spring tooth harrow or a spike harrow. We use different words to ID the different tools. Look at the pictures int his post if you know the difference between a moldboard plow and disc plow.


As someone else noted, thats an offset disc, not a disc harrow or disc plow.
 
Thank you for all the help guys, I am just processing all this
information. I am just worried I don?t want to blow out the
hydraulics if I lift it. Also the old top link showcroo mentioned is
it worth anything? I just took off and threw aside
 
(quoted from post at 11:39:47 02/18/19) Thank you for all the help guys, I am just processing all this
information. I am just worried I don?t want to blow out the
hydraulics if I lift it. Also the old top link showcroo mentioned is
it worth anything? I just took off and threw aside

Devron try reading my post again.
 
hummmm because I dont think they know what a disc plow is! why u guys questioning me? better question devron why he is calling it a disc plow. I know the difference.
 
I could not see good enough in picture so I assumed it was a finnishing disk with 4 gangs. Looking again it is an offset with 2 gangs and it is way to much for your tractor, you would need a tractor with twice the power you have. Weight it might lift it and that could be why things were moved so far forward as closer to tractor it will lift more than farther back. And I would not know how to loosen things to put them in correct place.
 
It looks like the gangs are adjustable in that the left side has a series of pin holes. Moving the left ends of the gangs closer together will allow
the discs to cut aggressively. After you roughed up the ground, you could then move the gangs farther apart and perhaps put a light drag of some sort
behind to help smooth your plots. I did not see mention about how wide it is, 5 or 6 feet and you might be able to move it with your 8N and I do
believe your 3 point will lift it. However ,when it does lift it up, I suspect the front end of your tractor will get real light and present you some
steering challenges. Practice on level, unobstructed ground until you are certain how the tractor will respond. Ask more questions- we will try to
help.
 
(quoted from post at 18:59:51 02/18/19) It looks like the gangs are adjustable in that the left side has a series of pin holes. Moving the left ends of the gangs closer together will allow
the discs to cut aggressively. After you roughed up the ground, you could then move the gangs farther apart and perhaps put a light drag of some sort
behind to help smooth your plots. I did not see mention about how wide it is, 5 or 6 feet and you might be able to move it with your 8N and I do
believe your 3 point will lift it. However ,when it does lift it up, I suspect the front end of your tractor will get real light and present you some
steering challenges. Practice on level, unobstructed ground until you are certain how the tractor will respond. Ask more questions- we will try to
help.

Thank you for the response. The disc is 6ft wide and 7ft deep. There are 21 16” discs. From the from discs to the back discs it is 4ft deep.
 
And you are missing one disk or blade as is correct trem as it should be same number on moth front and back. What we need is the distance between blades on same axle. 8", 9" , 10" or what? That will tell us the width of cut.
 
(quoted from post at 21:12:39 02/18/19) ya I know what that is but the disc he has pictured is not that. its just a disc.

It's not just a disc, it's an offset disc, which isn't a disc plow in the first place. Call it what you want.
 
(quoted from post at 17:58:45 02/18/19) I could not see good enough in picture so I assumed it was a finnishing disk with 4 gangs. Looking again it is an offset with 2 gangs and it is way to much for your tractor, you would need a tractor with twice the power you have. Weight it might lift it and that could be why things were moved so far forward as closer to tractor it will lift more than farther back. And I would not know how to loosen things to put them in correct place.

Leroy that is a three point disc. As I said in my first response, he doesn't need to sink it to the axles.
 
(quoted from post at 07:21:05 02/18/19) Looking again at the picture I see that someone has it very messed up the back section has to be at the back of that frame sticking out and the front section has to be moved back as it will not vlear your tractor tires especially if you angle the gangs (sections) as you will need to do to get it to cut, heavy angle first time over, then less following times and I see you are missing at least 1 blade that you need to replace as it will not work correctly with missing blades. the gangs were moved forward because of that lite weight for steering on front wheels and you CANNOT turn with the disk in the ground, you have to raise it to turn, trying to turn with it inground caneithe bend up or break the tractor hitch.

Leroy, where am I missing a disc?
 
(quoted from post at 14:00:31 02/19/19)
Showcrop, what do you mean by offsetting the front and rear gangs?


What I said about all the holes in the side frame rails, same as Dopp Creek said. With the two gangs parallel to each other there will be no cutting. With them angled with respect to each other, they will cut. You can adjust the angle by loosening the gang mounting bolts and slide the ends where the gangs mount. You will slide the gangs along the side frames. You will be moving one end of each towards the rear. This will result in more weight on the rear of your tractor, and it will work to pull it. HOWEVER, on the first few passes the discs will not be digging deeply and won't pull hard. It is after you get it softened and the gangs are sinking in that it will pull hard. You will not need to make that many passes to accomplish what you are looking to do.
 
The blades on the back are supposed to run midway of the blades on the front but the edn blade on the back sticks that distance out past the front blade on same end to pull the dirt bacl in that the front throwed out
 
(quoted from post at 17:00:54 02/19/19)
(quoted from post at 14:00:31 02/19/19)
Showcrop, what do you mean by offsetting the front and rear gangs?


What I said about all the holes in the side frame rails, same as Dopp Creek said. With the two gangs parallel to each other there will be no cutting. With them angled with respect to each other, they will cut. You can adjust the angle by loosening the gang mounting bolts and slide the ends where the gangs mount. You will slide the gangs along the side frames. You will be moving one end of each towards the rear. This will result in more weight on the rear of your tractor, and it will work to pull it. HOWEVER, on the first few passes the discs will not be digging deeply and won't pull hard. It is after you get it softened and the gangs are sinking in that it will pull hard. You will not need to make that many passes to accomplish what you are looking to do.


Does it matter what ends I move? So looking at the disc standing in front of the 3 point hook up I can move the left end side gangs each back a slot or two for better cutting?
 
That little disc you have has the same gang
adjustment as an ih 370 disc it looks like someone
made that disc from the gangs off an ih disc . You
will want it to look more or less like this when you
get it adjusted although you probably won?t want
this much angle
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(quoted from post at 22:10:49 02/19/19)
(quoted from post at 17:00:54 02/19/19)
(quoted from post at 14:00:31 02/19/19)
Showcrop, what do you mean by offsetting the front and rear gangs?


What I said about all the holes in the side frame rails, same as Dopp Creek said. With the two gangs parallel to each other there will be no cutting. With them angled with respect to each other, they will cut. You can adjust the angle by loosening the gang mounting bolts and slide the ends where the gangs mount. You will slide the gangs along the side frames. You will be moving one end of each towards the rear. This will result in more weight on the rear of your tractor, and it will work to pull it. HOWEVER, on the first few passes the discs will not be digging deeply and won't pull hard. It is after you get it softened and the gangs are sinking in that it will pull hard. You will not need to make that many passes to accomplish what you are looking to do.


Does it matter what ends I move? So looking at the disc standing in front of the 3 point hook up I can move the left end side gangs each back a slot or two for better cutting?

Devron, I can't tell without a better picture which end or maybe both you will move. It depends on where the holes in the frame members are. It appears that one side has more holes than the other. If you have it hooked to your tractor you can loosen the mounting or hold down bolts, lift the frame just slightly, then roll the gangs into position. It should end up like SVCummins pic but as he said without as much angle.
 
I had not looke at that but it is also same looking parts as a 37 IH disk and it is made from parts ov a large wheel carried IH 4 gang disk. I wondered about that poor designed 3 point hitch.
 

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