Round baler question

I have a JD baler with net wrap. It does a great job. This past year however was extremely wet and we store most bales outdoors. The hay being feed this winter has a lot of rot due to the amount of rain. I was just wondering why the baler manufacturers don't offer a solid plastic wrap that could eliminate much of this waste. I'm not talking about haylage around the entire bale. I know some of the newer balers are coming out with this feature. I'm just talking the baler covering the same area as netwrap with cheap solid wrap. I also know JD has a b wrap but this stuff is very expensive.
 
The bales I feed have far more rot coming from my dad who twine wraps and then plastics vs the netwrap I get locally.
AaronSEIA
 
Pretty sure you got some answers when you asked the other day. But there are balers that apply a plastic film. But its not perfect either.
 
Hay needs to breath, I don?t think you would get good results from film wrapping it and only the ends open. It would just rot from the inside then?

Paul
 
Its been a bad year for hay sitting out,especially if it was cut with something like a discbind that chops it all up when it cuts it.I use a sickle bar mower then just rake and bale, the long hay with running with the bale helps shed water pretty good.You might want to check out those Carolina metal buildings for hay storage I'm thinking of getting a couple for the better hay
they are pretty cheap.
 
The low deck on the brush hog or lawn mower causes it to keep being re cut before finally expelling it. A haybine or discbine cuts it off and it goes over and is gone. No re cutting.
 
(quoted from post at 10:51:22 02/02/19) How can they NOT do it same as the bush hog mower or your lawn mower?
I don’t think you understand how haybines work. They don’t work anything like a brush hog or lawn mower.
 
Edit: meant to type discbine, not haybine. Either way, the hay comes out the back exactly the same.
 
How are you stacking the bales? Mine are laying on their side on bare ground and I have very little spoilage except where the ground touches the bottom.

I found that stacking one vertically with one horizontally on top allows rain or melt water to stay attached to the upper bale beyond the max diameter and run sown the insides of the vertical bale causing spoilage. Only did that once!
 
This year I wrapped a bunch of dry hay bales with my inline wrapper, just like I would if they were wet bales hay. Bales were very dry, and had only been rolled up a few days before, so no moisture had wicked up from the ground into the hay. Bales are perfect, cost about two bucks per bale for plastic wrap. You would get more waste and frustration than two bucks is worth if you just leave them set out. Building a storage shed for hay sounds great but, you have the capital cost, as well as insurance and taxes to pay. Wrapping is quick and cheap. Very little money tied up, and if you quit doing hay after a few years you don?t loose your capital investment with a empty bale barn. Just think if the building cost 50 grand, and held 400 bales. How many years would you have to fill the building to break even?
 
Even the biggest carports will only hold a very small amount of hay. I went to look at an inline wrapper at an auction a few years ago, as that’s what I would like to be able to have. But even used, it brought about $20k. Just doesn’t pencil out for me. Some day I’ll come across a 3pt wrapper.
 
I jab the 3 point hitch wrapper for a few years, they
wrap single bales. Takes more than twice as much
plastic, believe it or not, than wrapping inline. If you
bought a used inline wrapper and used it for a few
years, then wanted to quit farming. You could
always sell the wrapper
 
There is no limit to the length building/carport that Carolina carports puts up.I have one to store garden tractors in and its 18 X 40,they'll add as many 20 ft sections on as you want no limit also offer wider widths.That 18 X 40 with closed sides and one end closed was a little over 3,000$.
 
There's a big difference between storing enough hay for a few goats in Va and storing enough for cattle in the north country. lol
 

Bale wrapping is becoming popular here also, but what does one do with all of that plastic after you've feed the hay.
I'd rather have my barns to feed twine wrapped hay from than deal with removing and disposing of the plastic or mesh warp.
 
Removing anything, twine, net, or plastic, is a major PITA. I think plastic would be easiest, but obviously disposal becomes a bigger issue. I imagine burning it would be the easiest way to get rid of it. I've really considered going back to sisal so I don't have to deal with twine anymore.
I've only got a handful of cows, and even I have to keep about 100 round bales on hand. Having a bunch of little carports around just isn't feasible. Plus, the odds of me getting in and out on icy ground without taking out of of the corners isn't good. Once the ground is rutted up and then freezes, I can barely make it through a 14' gate without sliding into a corner post.
 
Krone I believe made a film wrap baler. Trouble is water gets in and lays in bottom trapped by the plastic. Some problem with tube wrapping dry hay if you cheap out on the layers.

Tarps are cheap and work ok in not super windy areas, last about 2-3 years. Terrible in areas with high winds and lots of snow, essentially single season use which drives up cost.
 

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