New Holland Rake ???s

OldFarmall450 · Dec 11, 2018

Ok, i think i bought a hay rake. Only thing is the left tire is rubbing against the frame; with the tongue on the ground. Is something out of adjustment here?

I've used a rake like it years ago, but don't recall much about serviceing it.

It's about 60 miles from home... how fast can i safely tow it behind my truck?

OldFarmall450 · Dec 11, 2018

OldFarmall450 · Dec 11, 2018

OldFarmall450 · Dec 11, 2018

Roger in Iowa · Dec 11, 2018

Can't tow with it rubbing. Either something wrong with bearings/hanger or tire is too large.

Traditional Farmer · Dec 11, 2018

Looks to me like the tire is too wide.plus it'd be better to be able to take the shaft off the drive hub going to the gearbox you'll need some washers and a bolt to take up the slack.

MSS3020 · Dec 11, 2018

any way you can turn the wheel/tire around?? mount it from other end.. switch tires see if helps.. just shooting from
the hip.. longer bolts with spacers not recommend for long haul.. trailer it home..

MSS3020 · Dec 11, 2018

I have a 56 and it is a great rake. I have 195-70R14 car tires on it and they work fine

I pulled the above off an old post on here about tires this guy used..

OldFarmall450 · Dec 11, 2018

Thanks guys for the quick reply. I've turned tires around on implements/trailers before...also used spacers/nuts/washers...but its been years and forgot all those tricks of the trade. The offending tire is almost new...i hate to replace it.

how do i pull the drive shaft going to gearbox ? The rake is 15 miles from me; may get it here, then work on getting it to farm.

Baby steps...

PS, owners/operators manual??

riveroadrat · Dec 11, 2018

I have seen a lot that people run'em till the wheels fall off. There are two tapered roller bearings that hold the mainshaft on each side and a bushing for each wheel. I've towed them at 55 before but I put tubes in mine cause they go flat if left sitting too long. You can tighten the wheels with washers but the bushings have to be in fair condition or you will need a new hub or put a bigger bushing in it. I think when the driveshaft is disconnected they run mainly on the tapered bearings. If they aren't totally worn out you can tighten them with the big nut on each end. Watch out for someone with their head down on the road. I think you might want to make sure the gearbox isn't shot.

paul · Dec 11, 2018

Take the shaft off the nd of the axle and tie it up. You do not want it jumping into gear at 35mph! Easy to happen, you?ll never find all the little pieces and wouldn?t have
need to it would be scrap.

My 55 has little latches in the hubs to take the dogs out of gear as well, donno if the 56 does?

Probably turn the wheel around as mentioned. I had to on mine when the skinny tire blew and I had to put on a fatter one laying around.....

The bushings or bearings (again, not sure of the differences between 55 and 56) in the hub might be loose or wore down and wobbly on the axle. that would not be
good at speed.

I?m kinda mentioning the bad, don?t mean to scare you it should work out.

Paul

OldFarmall450 · Dec 11, 2018

It may be a little late to ask this... can parts be had for this rake?

SVcummins · Dec 11, 2018

Way to big of tire on there that?s why it?s rubbing .
As far as parts new Holland has about anything you
need and there are a million of those rakes out
there for used parts

showcrop · Dec 12, 2018

As Paul said you pull the drive shaft from the axle end. It is supposed to be held by a pin held by a spring clip but you will probably find a rusted bolt and nut. The drive coupler telescopes and the two ends tend to get rusted together. You will need to lift that end of the basket in order to get the coupler loose from the axle.

mikewood869 · Dec 12, 2018

(quoted from post at 16:28:09 12/11/18)
It may be a little late to ask this... can parts be had for this rake?

Just don't brake the gearbox.

Traditional Farmer · Dec 12, 2018

The larger the tire the slower the raking assembly will turn.If its the right factory wheel on it correctly now turning the wheel around will make the tire set in even closer.

Traditional Farmer · Dec 12, 2018

If that shaft is rusted tight it'll destroy the gearbox and the universals.If it is he needs to closely inspect the rake before buying.

OldFarmall450 · Dec 12, 2018

(quoted from post at 06:33:51 12/12/18) If that shaft is rusted tight it'll destroy the gearbox and the universals.If it is he needs to closely inspect the rake before buying.

If the shaft is rusted right, will some heat (torch) and a big hammer free it up? Thinking out loud here.

Traditional Farmer · Dec 12, 2018

Shouldn't be any problem to get freed up.

Elton Fancher · Dec 12, 2018

No one wants to buy the smaller tires those rakes came with, probably why it is rubbing. They all have some play there. They rake faster with the smaller profile tires. Bigger car tires, especially if they slip or are a little different size, will cause them to speed up and slow down. I can't tell if it is a 55, 56 or 256 from pic, but some of those parts are now available aftermarket. 55 has 6 hole rims, 56 and 256 have 4 hole.

showcrop · Dec 12, 2018

(quoted from post at 15:58:00 12/12/18) No one wants to buy the smaller tires those rakes came with, probably why it is rubbing. They all have some play there. They rake faster with the smaller profile tires. Bigger car tires, especially if they slip or are a little different size, will cause them to speed up and slow down. I can't tell if it is a 55, 56 or 256 from pic, but some of those parts are now available aftermarket. 55 has 6 hole rims, 56 and 256 have 4 hole.

Elton, he posted a pic of the plate that gives the model #.

Elton Fancher · Dec 12, 2018

I did not see it, but do now. 56. I have had those drive shafts rust up solid on those rakes, they need to be able to slide. But not much difference in the way any NH works, but parts for the 56 and 256 will about all interchange. The 55 is older, different gearbox bolt pattern, wheel bolt pattern, and the bar bearings are different size.

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