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Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Help identifying MM plow

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MattW85

04-12-2018 19:12:59




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Hi, I was given this Minneapolis-Moline plow for free. I been planning to fix it up for a while. I've been told it's a AF plow. The thing that has me confused is the three piece bottoms. Every AF I've seen always had conventional plow bottoms. Did M-M ever offer the AF with three piece bottoms?

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MattW85

04-17-2018 18:45:49




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to MattW85, 04-12-2018 19:12:59  
This is the only number I could find my the moldboard.

20H1477

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MattW85

04-15-2018 21:22:36




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to MattW85, 04-12-2018 19:12:59  
Thanks for the info. I'll take a look on my days off.



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IHCPloughman

04-15-2018 19:32:59




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to MattW85, 04-12-2018 19:12:59  
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Maybe. I think Moline had their own 3 piece bottom for a short while before White bought them in 1963. Sometime after that MM started using Oliver bottoms and rebadged Oliver plows. The Oliver plows rebadged as MM plows still used the MM bolt pattern between the frog and beam so it was easy for someone to retrofit an old AF to Oliver bottoms. I guess if the part number stamped on the moldboard looks Oliver, like R619, R419, R225, then you’ve got an Oliver bottom.

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NEKS

04-14-2018 11:15:19




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to MattW85, 04-12-2018 19:12:59  
Interesting! A guy gave me a MM plow a year ago. It was 2-12's and the shears looked good. Has a big ring for the hitch. Got it shined up some behind the F-20 last summer. First one ever been around.



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Farmallb

04-14-2018 12:48:09




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to NEKS, 04-14-2018 11:15:19  
Where in NE Kans you from? I was born raised between Wathena, and Atchison, closer to Doniphan than Atchison. I too plowed with my F-20, and later with a 30 and the MM plow. 30 never knew it was behind it. Id turn corners without tripping. Not a good thing to do. I was around 19 then. Im 70 now. Id love to have another 30. Ive had 2. I had around 5 20s over time. They was alright, but I did grinding and sawing with mine, and besides mowing, it was a pain, even when young to reach down and engage the pulley/PTO

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Farmallb

04-13-2018 20:38:26




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to MattW85, 04-12-2018 19:12:59  
Dad had one that I took with me when I left home 50yrs ago. I started plowing with it. It didn't have that kind of shares, just regular like on most plows, 2 14. It had a ring hitch, and a coupler mech that bolted onto the drawbar of the tractor. Dad thought it was the best plow made. It was good enough/



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MattW85

04-13-2018 14:50:04




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to MattW85, 04-12-2018 19:12:59  
Thanks for all the info. A friend at work told me that AF plows with three piece bottoms can use Oliver parts. Any truth to that?



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IHCPloughman

04-13-2018 10:47:02




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to MattW85, 04-12-2018 19:12:59  
And, the plow has an IH hitch.



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IHCPloughman

04-13-2018 10:46:29




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 Re: Help identifying MM plow in reply to MattW85, 04-12-2018 19:12:59  
Yep, it's a model AF. That looks like the 4 piece NIFE bottom. I don't have any specific dates for you but it was a 1950's thing like the IH Plow Chief. If you order an AF operator's manual from the Floyd County Museum it will be a late manual and will show the NIFE bottoms in it. I've got a 4 bottom model DF at home with NIFE bottoms. Benes Service of Valparaiso, NE had a boat load of NIFE points when I was there last fall. If it is a 3 piece bottom then I don't know. I've seen enough AF-DF plows with 3 piece throw-away lay bottoms that makes me think they were available from the factory that way.

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