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joegeds

09-28-2014 13:58:12

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Hello, I am new to the forum and have a question. We dug out an old mower/sickle from my cousins property and were able to get most of the parts moving. I can barely make out the "IH" logo, so I'm sure it's an International Harvester. After looking on line at some mowers and manuals for similar mowers, most part numbers begin with the prefix "M". The mower we found has a prefix of "K" stamped on all the parts. K1132 and K55 for example. Can anyone tell me what model this might be so that I can search for a manual?

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Leroy

09-28-2014 15:17:58

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to joegeds, 09-28-2014 13:58:12

First questions are old mower, is it horse drawn? Tractor drawn with trailer like PTO driven? tractor semi-mount with 1 wheel? fast hitch? one or 2 prong? 3 point hitch? side mount? Pitman stick or not? And of these answers will help to narrow down model and there would be several different models in each of those styles. And those numbers could have been used on several different models of those mowers.

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joegeds

09-28-2014 19:02:25

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to Leroy, 09-28-2014 15:17:58

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OK. It is horse drawn (although could be towed by tractor too - but no PTO). It has two steel wheels. The hitch is not original, so I don't know what it is supposed to have. I'm not sure what a "side mount" or "Pittman stick" is. I will try to post pics tomorrow from work to help out with the ID. thanks.

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Leroy

09-29-2014 02:50:26

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to joegeds, 09-28-2014 19:02:25

OK, that narrows it down quite a bit. Side mount is it mounts to the side of the tractor in front of the rear wheel and back of the front wheel. The pitman stick is what drives the knife and would be wood. on if it was a newer mower of even 70's age that still is 40 years old and some were called pitmanless as they had what was called a wobble box for the drive but that is not a consideration on a mower that was horse drawn. And that narrows it down to one of about 7 different models, the No. 4, New Big 4, No. 6, Big 6, No. 7, or No. 9 unless it was a 1 horse model then I do not think they had a model number. Would have to check my books. What length bar does it have, are the gears completely enclosed or do you see some? What are the width of the wheels? And the model should be cast into the main frame. Some it will be on the rear axle and some on the big angle part of the frame. I have had the No. 4, New Big 4, Big 6, No. 7 & No.9 mowers and the Nos. 7 & 9 are very desireable with the Amish for use. The single horse mower would have a cutting width of 3 1/2' to 5' and the others are 2 horse mowers and would have had a cutting width of 5 to 7'.

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joegeds

09-29-2014 04:28:16

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to Leroy, 09-29-2014 02:50:26

I did not see a model number anywhere on the machine, but some pieces are missing - like the tool box lid - that may have shown the make/model? Anyway, here are a few pics that hopefully will help identify the model:

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Leroy

09-29-2014 05:13:39

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to joegeds, 09-29-2014 04:28:16

OK, Know it is an open gear model and think it is a No. 6 or Big 6 Mower as it looks like a steel lifting lever instead of wood. Could you show some pictures of the complete mower? Some details that I need are missing from these part pictures. Is there any sign of a seat mount, can't see one in picture. That could throw it to a different model yet. I will open my email if you want to contact me directly. Lester

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joegeds

09-29-2014 12:02:54

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to Leroy, 09-29-2014 05:13:39

Here is the most complete pic I have. You can see the seat mount sticking straight up from the machine (near the arm of the guy in the light blue shirt, and going up on this side of his head).

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Leroy

09-29-2014 12:32:24

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to joegeds, 09-29-2014 12:02:54

The seat mount is cast in as part of the main frame on the rear of the frame on the axle and hust a few inches to the left of where the toung mouints. Can't see anything there. So being the frame doesn't look quite right in earlier picture for IHC McCormick I wonder what it is. If you can get any others or any other info I will help try to get it figured out. I have some books on other makes as well as IHC.

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joegeds

09-30-2014 04:48:31

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to Leroy, 09-29-2014 12:32:24

Leroy,

If you look at my post above where I posted two pictures, the second picture shows where the seat mount is located and what it looks like. It is shown at the bottom left of the second picture. I will email the others that were there to see if they can send me some more pics of the mower so that I can post them.

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Leroy

09-30-2014 05:28:45

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to joegeds, 09-30-2014 04:48:31

That is where I cant see the seat mount. Do you see a rough looking area just back of the toung? That is the foot rest to keep your foot from sliding and the seat should mount just to the back of that. That is where all the McCormick mowers were mounted. Looks like your seat was fastened with the back bolt in the toung.

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joegeds

09-30-2014 09:14:43

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to Leroy, 09-30-2014 05:28:45

Leroy,

With all due respect, I think one of us is confused. When you say "toung", are you referring to the wooden beam? If you are, the seat is definitely not fastened to the back bolt on that part. The seat mount is cast as part of the main axle assembly and is to the left of the wooden toung and "rough looking area" on the axle. The flat iron piece of metal sticking up from the axle/frame at the bottom left of the second pic above is the seat support.

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Leroy

09-30-2014 15:58:56

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Re: Question about part numbers in reply to joegeds, 09-30-2014 09:14:43

Yes the toung is the wooden meam and that is why I was hopeing for full pictures instead of just part machine pictures as I cannot see that on this picture.

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