Lustran, chart/table

BobV

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I"m new to this group, is there a chart for the Lustran plates as to what plate for what seed? I have a 246/247 JD planter
 
Bob,
I wrote a lengthy explanation called "Plate-type planters and plates to match your seed size" back on 04-03-09.

I don"t know how to retrieve it and bring it forward to today"s date. If anybody knows how to do that, please do so.

If someone does not bring it up to date, you can email me and I"ll send it to you.

I was born so long ago that I went thru the era of plate planters and was in the seed business for nearly 40 years, and I can still remember which plates go with which seed sizes. (Lustran and steel plates.)

LA in WI
 
Bob,
More to the point:
1. Lustran info is on the Lincolnag site. But that chart does not give you exact info on what plates you need for a certain seed size.
2. Plate recommendations used to be on the back of the seed bag, but most companies do not do that anymore (it is a plateless world!).
3. We WILL get help to you.
LA in WI
 
LA Thanks, I tried some searches but with no luck, didn't know this would be such a problem!?
 
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Name: LA in WI (Reserved Name)

E-Mail: [email protected]

Subject: Plate-type planters and plates to match your seed size.

Body of Message:

This time of year there are often questions about plate-type planters, plates, sprocket settings, etc. from "new" owners of old plate-type planters. Hopefully, the following info will help:

1. Do you have an owner's manual for your planter? If not, please get one. Without it you will have continued problems. Trust me on this...get a manual. Binder Books is one source; 503-684-2024, 10am-5pm, Pacific time. No, I don't work for them.

2. Is your planter set for 16 cell or 24 cell plates? If you don't know, look at the plates that came with the planter. Count the "cells" or openings on the outer edge of the plates. If you don't have any plates for that plate-type planter, see #1.

The planter sprocket settings are crucial to accurately planting corn. If the sprockets are set for 16 cell plates and you use 24 cell, you will seriously overplant. If set for 24 and you use 16 you will seriously underplant.

#3. Look at the seed bag. It should have the kernel size stamped on it for the seed that is in that bag.

Kernel sizes: If the bag does not state that info, ask the seed dealer. If the dealer does not know, go to a smarter dealer...if he is over 60 yrs old he will know this. I'm 72 and can still tell the plate size just by the color of the plastic plate (yes, plastic plates are color coded as well).

Kernel sizes usually go by the following initials (I hope the columns match up the way I typed them):

SF = small flat

SMR = small medium flat

MF = medium flat

MLF = med. large flat

LF = large flat

SR = small round

SMR = small med. round

MR = med. round

MLR = med. large round

LR = large round

4. Following is a list of plastic plates you can use or buy to plant these seed sizes (Lincoln Ag data, no, I don't work for them either). 402-464-6367.

John Deere uses "B" plates, IH uses "C" plates.

SF = B9 , C9

SMF = B6, C697

MF = B7, C7

MLF = B11, C11

LF = B5, C8

SR - B25, C25

SMR = B150, C2X

MR = B1, C1X

MLR = B0, C13

LR = B28, C0X

Note: If not planting accurately, try the next larger or smaller plate as some seeds might not fall into these categories.

(Warning - With JD 24 cell planting MF, use a plate numbered "B7-24X", do NOT use a "B7-24". It has to have the "X" on it. A B7-24 is to be tossed, it should never have been made. Both are the same light green color so look closely. This info refers ONLY to this plate.)

Plates have a code stamped on them, such as B6-16 (16 cell) or B6-24 (24 cell). The "B6" refers to the cell size, the 16 or 24 refers to the number of cells that plate has.

JD plates can often be used in 1968 & later models of White, MM, Oliver, Cockshutt and Dempster planters. Also 1976 & later models of Ford 352. For Allis Chalmers and Cole an adapter is needed and Lincoln Ag has this.

IH plates can be used in 1968 & later models of Case planters.

Planting "plateless" sized seed can be done with a plate planter...sort of, but prayer would be of help with this.

Plastic plates work as well, or better, than an old rusty metal plate. You will have to plant a lot of corn to wear out a new plastic plate. The "newer" plastic plates have a little hole (1/8"?) drilled about 1/2 way thru the plate along the outer edge and is a "wear gauge"; if you can see thru that hole then toss the plate as it is worn out.

With most old planters the floor plate is often well worn. If it has deep grooves in it you can try one size smaller plate but that is chancy at best. If floor plate is not worm much, you are lucky. Some John Deere planters you can flip the floor plate over and try that, but usually that is for very large seed.

#5. Always, always, start with #1.

There are also a myriad of parts that need to be checked on an old planter, but this info should help you get started.

Remember this: The sins of planting will haunt you all season.
 
Lincoln Ag or Lustran plates on their web site list the cell sizes in 64th of an inch in sizes and that way you can acurately tell sizes and Deere did have a complete manual on nothing but plates and seed sizing. Have one but would have to hunt, somebody else might know the book number. But that lists all the cast plates Deere ever made along with the cell sizes also in 64th" and with that you can cross any Lustran plate to a Deere plate number or the Deere plates that will be listed in your owners manual and what each size plate was orignally for. Now here is the thing to watch out for, years ago things were sized differently than now, what was a medium then is now a large. So best way is to take your seed and measure it and then find a cell size that it will fit into. You are luckey with a Deere on that. Years ago had Oliver and not a single plate number matched in operators manual or plate sizes listed on bag, said on plate a size but it was way off on the actuall seed size.
 
Go to www.jdparts.com.

Click on "John Deere Parts Catalog".

At top of new page, click on "Catalog Number Search".

In the new text box the opens, enter "268". (Without the quotes.)

Planter plates catalog 268 will open.
 
Ya know I am continually amazed at the knowledge that comes from this forum!!! I go to the Case forum and the same thing happens, always helpful thank you Tim, LA, Leroy.
 

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