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IH 440 baler knotter frustrations

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corona boy

07-08-2013 17:01:35

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Inside knotter will loop and hang up on bill hook shaft. Not every time. But the most without is five bales. Cut the twine off hook,run twine thru twine disc and tie off. Good for 3 or 4 more bales. I'm thinking twine tension on that one knotter. Suggestions? Comments? Ideas?

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07-08-2013 22:10:43

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 Re: IH 440 baler knotter frustrations in reply to corona boy, 07-08-2013 17:01:35  
Sounds like the wiper arm is not pulling the know off the hook. Do you have the manual? That is an absolute MUST for a baler. Dozens of adjustments to me made in a critical order.

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Paul swPa

07-08-2013 21:23:07

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 Re: IH 440 baler knotter frustrations in reply to corona boy, 07-08-2013 17:01:35  
Could be a lot of things going on. Twine tension is a good place to start. Also check the keeper settings and helper spring on the knotter, new twine knives and position they are put on in can sometimes help. I saw on here somewhere that plunger slop can be part of the problem too. That's what I'm down to on my 440 to try and solve this problem. It worked great when we got it, so thinking something is worn.

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matt robinson

07-08-2013 19:50:46

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 Re: IH 440 baler knotter frustrations in reply to corona boy, 07-08-2013 17:01:35  
I bale with a 430 and have had the same problem. I used to get the same results you are getting every 5 bales. Since then I loosened the bill and kept it well lubricated with light penetrating oil. also do not over grease the knotters for that will cause twine to get stuck too. you should grease every 1000 bales and grease lightly. that worked for me its worth a shot

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07-08-2013 19:13:30

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 Re: IH 440 baler knotter frustrations in reply to corona boy, 07-08-2013 17:01:35  
I have a 430 and i think it is the same. First clean every speck of string out of the knotters, second make sure all the string is cleaned out of the knotters that is how important it is. make sure you are using 9600 twine not small round bale twine. if I rember right you dont have to thread the string through the knotters just through the needle and tie off to the arm. I fought mine for over four hours one day just enough for a lite shower to ruin all my hay and when the dryed the next day it worked perfect mine always misses when it comes to the end of a ball of string and I just stop clean the knotter and go on mine will never miss after that. Watch after bragging on it that thing will make me pay
I hope this help you John

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North Vale - PA

07-08-2013 18:31:49

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 Re: IH 440 baler knotter frustrations in reply to corona boy, 07-08-2013 17:01:35  
on a JD baler, that is a sign the tucker fingers are not pushing the twine into correct position.

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07-08-2013 19:23:26

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 Re: IH 440 baler knotter frustrations in reply to North Vale - PA, 07-08-2013 18:31:49  
NV- totally different knotter. JD is similar to a NH, IH is a Mc Cormick design. After the bale is tied, it leaves two little 'rabbit ears' in the knot.

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