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Ellis Kinney

04-14-2013 15:07:42

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I followed your suggestions on adjusting the plow. I took the disc and cultipacker over what I had already messed up and tried again. I know it will be difficult to tell very much about the plow on already plowed ground, but I didn't want to do the whole hayfield. I made a shorter clevis ring, and lowered the drawbar a little. Suggestions are welcome, at least I'm trying. Thanks, Ellis

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Leroy

04-16-2013 03:11:57

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

Ellis, that where they are talking about is still a part of the problem I was talking about. Your pictures do not show the hitch adapting plates on the front of the plow that I assumed you had in the correct position (they set low to the ground with only a small amount of ground clearance)but after looking at these pictures I would say they are not. The angle of the toung tells me they are set high. You draw a straight line between the tractor hitch, that cross bar on front of plow to that point on share. And that makes the toung angle down at the back. Only then can you adjust the rod that carries the rear of the plow.

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JD John

04-15-2013 18:52:02

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

I think Jo Bird is on to something here about the hitch. It should be angled the other direction, from the tractor down to the plow. Here is what it says in my plow book "When the plow is in the ground plowing, the rear of the plow hitch is in a staight line from the tractor drawbar to the top of the share on the second bottom." So I think raising your drawbar and cranking adjusting rod on the hitch of the plow shorter might help. John

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Jo Bird

04-15-2013 16:13:55

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

Ellis ( lowering the hitch)
I'm not sure that will help the tail dragging. Does the hitch pivot at the point it hooks to the plow or does it have a brace that holds it rigid to the frame ? As I remember dad tried to have the hitch parallel to the ground. Yours appears to drop 5" or so down to the tractor. Its all about geometry. I'm knot sure how to explain it. In my mind the hitch should be parallel to the plane of the plow bottoms. Then with the wheels being closer to the front of the plow than the back as the plow raises the longer back portion of the plow should raise higher off the ground. Can you lower the back of the hitch at the plow or shorten the upper brace to raise the front of the hitch ? I hope my explanation makes some kind of sense . Anyway if lowering dosen't help you might consider my ramblings.
Jo

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Ellis Kinney

04-15-2013 11:11:16

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

Jo Bird--I thought of that also, good point. I am going to lower my drawbar about another inch. When I come up out of the ground it tail drags a bit. Thanks, Ellis

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Jo Bird

04-15-2013 09:05:37

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

I mean NO disrespect to others saying your plow should be level. But level is level and your ground is not level..maybe a more simple way to look at this is, lay your level across the beams and adjust the beams to be parallel with the slope of the ground you are plowing. Start by raising the left wheel to lower the rear plow to plow the required depth of say 8" and leave it. On the next round of plowing raise / lower the furrow wheel to set the depth of that furrow to the 8". Now the beams should be parallel to the slope of the ground. Of course the depth you plow is determined by the depth of the top soil in your area. Plow as deep as you can with out turning up the sub soil. If the plow tries to ride up out of the ground, the hitch has to be adjusted to allow the points to dig in and hold the plow in the ground. As the plow points wear they will try to raise up out of the ground and will need to be replaced. Hope this helps, again No disrespect intended.
Jo

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Ellis Kinney

04-14-2013 19:55:13

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

I have had problems getting it level. I think that I still need to lower my drawbar some more. I am going to put a bigger spacer between the two drawbars. When I added the Saginaw 3pt hitch it raised my drawbar about 2 inches. Thanks for all the input. Ellis

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Dave Sherburne NY

04-14-2013 19:25:42

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

I agree with John, move that lever to lower the front bottom til the plow sets level when in the ground.

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JMS/.MN

04-14-2013 19:23:25

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

Looks pretty good- lay a level across the frame with the plow in the ground at adequate depth. Frame should be level fore and aft, as well as side to side.

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JD John

04-14-2013 18:16:32

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

This is just an observation from the pics but it looks like the front bottom is not plowing deep enough. Look at B-maniac's lever positions compared to your's, his furrow wheel lever is more in the middle and land wheel lever is lower. Your's are just the oppisite. Just something to I noticed when comparing pics. Keep playing with it and have fun! John

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Ellis Kinney

04-14-2013 17:46:37

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

Maxwell99- I have completely reworked that old plow except for a new paint job. I bought new bottoms at tractor supply and cut them up with the porta band and welded them to the old bottoms. A lot of cutting and grinding went into that. I re-did the wheels and put 3 coats of truck bed liner paint inside. The land wheel was really sloppy and I made spacers with hole saws. The only thing I couldn't do was use it. Ellis

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B-maniac

04-14-2013 16:54:17

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

Just from my observation your moldboards look longer and less curved than mine. May have what they call hi-speed moldboards which might require a gear higher to properly roll and break up the soil. That M should be able to do just that, a little deeper and a gear faster. Looks like you may be ready for a swipe through the "new" ground now.

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maxwell99

04-14-2013 16:33:07

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

looks great compared to some plowing I have done,

at least you are not pulled out into the open field with the plows all plugged up and you are trying to kick the plug out.

keep up the good work. sometimes as the plow wings get slick it will plow better,
do you have good points on the old plow, that is very important. Dull points will just not go in the ground.

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jon f mn

04-14-2013 15:30:59

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Re: plowing pictures in reply to Ellis Kinney, 04-14-2013 15:07:42

I don't see anything really wrong with that. If you go a bit deeper it will turn it better.

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