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aarolar

03-17-2013 17:15:51




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I have a cole planter I pull with a small Yanmar tractor for planting our garden and I have a few questions regarding the setup and use.
We only have a few plates and therefore have to improvise alittle, we typically use peanut plates for the peas and beans and get a good stand but the corn is giving me trouble. We have been using a six hole corn plate and from running it on hard dirt it drops sporadically like itll drop 3-4" apart then skip a foot or so and start over. The plate is dropping seed every slot and I am 100% sure the tube is clear anyone got any suggestions on what my issues could be?
Second question is do I have it hooked up correctly? Me nor my father have seen one correctly setup so we are both going off of what we could deduce from studying it. We have another one I am planning on restoring and we have two Pittsburgh cultivator frames and a fert distributor I want restore one for pulling the cultivators and one for cultivating.
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Bud Soda

03-18-2013 17:05:19




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to aarolar, 03-17-2013 17:15:51  
Probably two seed in some of the cells. Try to find bigger seed.



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Kirk-NJ

03-18-2013 01:50:28




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to aarolar, 03-17-2013 17:15:51  
With a 6 hole plate and a 14 tooth distance gear you should be dropping every 17" or so. I don't know what distance gear you are using.
I've had this problem and it was matching the right plate to the corn. Sometimes with the shape of the corn with smaller kennels you will get 2 kennels in the same hole at the same time. This will drop a few inches apart and than the longer span may be your normal distance.

Kirk

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Paul

03-18-2013 05:49:00




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to Kirk-NJ, 03-18-2013 01:50:28  
More weight on the rear wheel - lengthen top link. That big skid on hard ground is going to keep the rear wheel from contacting the ground well.

Or, wrong plates.

Or, wrong gear setup. Probably coupled with a wrong plate.

Or, your seed is not graded very well to be very very uniform in size.

Planters really need a manual with them, there is a lot going on, so very many adjustments, and even corn spacing and more so even depth is critical to a good crop, even just for a food plot.

Paul

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Paul

03-18-2013 06:05:13




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to Paul, 03-18-2013 05:49:00  
Here would be the modern version and manual of your planter.

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Just looks like your hitch is heavy, and pushes down on the front of the planter, so the wheel would come up at times, esp in hard ground. Letting the wheel skid.

Paul



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aarolar

03-18-2013 16:10:16




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to Paul, 03-18-2013 06:05:13  
Back story on those big skids is I live on a sandy hill and use a tiller to prep my garden and it becomes extremely fluffy and soft, I don't have any hard dirt anywhere on my hill. Also the planter floats under the hitch the hitch puts no weight on the planter itself.
Kirk-NJ, I don't see your email but I am interested in that guys contact information get with me at aarolar@hotmail.com
This post was edited by aarolar at 16:14:20 03/18/13 2 times.

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aarolar

03-18-2013 02:54:58




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to Kirk-NJ, 03-18-2013 01:50:28  
I'm guessing the distance gear is the one in the hopper under the seed plate? Can you still get these through Covington or am I stuck with what I have



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Kirk-NJ

03-18-2013 03:59:25




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to aarolar, 03-18-2013 02:54:58  
After you take your seed plate out than pull the gear off that is under your seed plate and then the distance gear is under that. Not sure about covington but I know someone who has some at a reasonable price. He also has seed plates for sale. I have bough both plates and gears from him including a full set of distance gear including the 18 tooth which I never see available anywhere. luckly I bought the last one from him but it won't hurt to ask because he might have one laying around the barn.
My email is open if interested.

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Diydave

03-17-2013 17:44:40




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to aarolar, 03-17-2013 17:15:51  
Google Covington MFG, Georgia, they bought cole, and Powell up, still make parts and plates. If it's skipping, something is jammed, or the wrong plate, or it's set front heavy.



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aarolar

03-17-2013 18:12:09




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to Diydave, 03-17-2013 17:44:40  
I'll wait and see what the stand looks like when it starts coming up it is light on the wheel but I don't think its missing any drops. My pa was walking beside it and didn't see anything obvious.



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KEH

03-17-2013 17:34:31




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 Re: Cole planter help in reply to aarolar, 03-17-2013 17:15:51  

Looks set up perfectly. If it rides reasonably level it's set up right.

Don't know why it's skipping. Possibly something is tight and the wheel is dragging. Possibly chain is too loose. Neither of these is likely, but it never hurts to have adequate lubrication.

That is a late model planter where the plates sits up at an angle and drags the seed up to a slot and drops the seed. Are you sure you have the right size plate for the type of corn? They way that planter is designed I don't think seed size is all that important.

Back to dragging wheel possibility, maybe the wheel just isn't getting enough traction on the hard ground. That planter was designed for horse drawn use or use on a 2 row cultivator frame, and both of these uses would mean more weight on the wheel and so more traction.

KEH

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