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Phil H

03-01-2012 05:50:32




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I have a field (about 35ac.)that is used as pasture, and would like to smooth off some of the high spots because the ground has dry spots. The land varies from high to low about 2.5 feet, over a large area. I would plant the ground in grass seed mixed with some oats, or rye, or winter wheat, or something for grazing. My question is what is the best way to lower these high spots? I was thinking a 12ft. landplane. I have a A.C.7060 and 5 tine rippers to help loosen up things. Whats a fare price to pay for the Farmhand Landplane 20yrs old. Thanks for any help...Phil

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rhtx55

03-07-2012 18:59:54




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 Re: LANDPLANE in reply to Phil H, 03-01-2012 05:50:32  
I would use an old fashioned spreader & lay it down around an inch thick, let it "cure" for a week or two THEN disk it in.



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Phil H

03-03-2012 08:12:24




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 Re: LANDPLANE in reply to Phil H, 03-01-2012 05:50:32  
Has anyone ever used horse manuer on a field? I have a neighbor who is just pileing this stuff up and probably would be glad to get rid of some of it. I would disk this in if anyone thinks it would help the pasture. Would it help to hold water in the ground? Would I need to add something to the manuer?? Don't have a dairy barn to get cow manuer from. Need ideas....Phil



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Dick2

03-02-2012 10:31:09




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 Re: LANDPLANE in reply to Phil H, 03-01-2012 05:50:32  
Drill or dig some holes and see what the depth of top soil is in different places. If the topsoil depth is less than what you would need to remove to level the field, leave it alone.

If you remove all the topsoil, it could take nature 100 years to build it back up.



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Phil H

03-03-2012 08:01:53




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 Re: LANDPLANE in reply to Dick2, 03-02-2012 10:31:09  
I agree, maybe I will bring in some top soil. I have a neighbor that has a whole lot of horse manuer, and straw mix that he is just pileing up, I wonder if I disk things, if spreading some of the horse manuer on it would help, to bring the natural grass back in this dried up spot. Just a thought, if someone else has any ideas I would appreciate it. ..... Phil



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IaGary

03-01-2012 06:30:55




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 Re: LANDPLANE in reply to Phil H, 03-01-2012 05:50:32  
I guessing those high spots are a lighter soil type.

Leveling them off will not make them hold water any better.

Now if you are leveling to flood irrigate then that is a different story. Leveling to erase the dry spots isn't gonna work.

Also moving 18 inches of soil in one place may remove all the top soil from that spot.

We have 100 foot high hills here and the hills hold the water as well as the flat ground unless it is a soil type that doesn't hold water whether it is flat or a hill.

Gary

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Phil H

03-01-2012 06:48:33




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 Re: LANDPLANE in reply to IaGary, 03-01-2012 06:30:55  
Thanks Gary, I think you are right, maybe just a good discking would do, to see if the ground will hold water on these spots. ..... Phil



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John A.

03-01-2012 06:29:38




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 Re: LANDPLANE in reply to Phil H, 03-01-2012 05:50:32  
Phil H, You have enough Horses to pull a 50ft X 12ft land plane you will have to be Dual-ed up or you just be frustrated beyond belief. I am not familiar with the Farm-Hand land planes but and old Eversman Camelback or JD copy should not be that much I would think $2 to $4 K !!!
If you could find and Old Holcomb Land Plane built at Holcomb Ks I would latch on to it!.
You do know that the dryer and looser the soil is the easier it is to move No clods more powdery. If you disk (3 to 4 times)that 35 acres deep and get it some what dries out float the whole field you can dress it up where it is a joy to run a tractor or Pickup over, it you don it can be one miserable mess. In the High Plains when we were still Row Watering we would plane a piece of land every few yrs to maintain good slope and ensure that, that season crop would water right and not give problems Hope this helps!
Later,
John A.

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Phil H

03-01-2012 06:56:46




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 Re: LANDPLANE in reply to John A., 03-01-2012 06:29:38  
Hi John, thanks for the comments, I do have duals, but maybe I should just start with the discs as you suggested. I have a WHITE 24 folding disc. I can't errigate this pasture, wish I could. I'll start with the disc and some seed and see how this goes. thanks again...Phil



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