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Old International Hay Rake

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1 Dollar

05-18-2011 16:29:45




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Are these old rakes any good? Wouldn't be raking much but by the description this one seems in good useable shape and is the size that should be what I need? Any input would be appreciated?

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1 Dollar

05-19-2011 19:42:59




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 Re: Old International Hay Rake in reply to 1 Dollar, 05-18-2011 16:29:45  
I was at $350 and he was stuck at $500 so no deal. It needed some fingers and a bearing so it wasn"t perfect by any means. Functional but not worth $500 to me



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jordan watson

05-19-2011 18:21:58




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 Re: Old International Hay Rake in reply to 1 Dollar, 05-18-2011 16:29:45  
What model rake is it? I have one just like it and need wheel bearings for one of the tailwheels. Mine worked great until the bearing went out while raking a field of hay.



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farmallb

05-19-2011 06:13:39




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 Re: Old International Hay Rake in reply to 1 Dollar, 05-18-2011 16:29:45  
Hell yes there good, (If there still in good shape). To test it, put it in gear and pull on the tongue. See how much slack there is in the take up of the reel. Grab a bar with it in gear and push and pull it. Shouldnt be more than 4in play in the reel. Jack up one side each of the front axle and rotate the tires, in gear and out. In gear, see how much play there is between wheel travel and reel movement. Out of gear throw the wheel and look for any wobble, shake, push and pull the wheels. Look for any bearing slop. If you DO find wear/play, well, the wear aint so bad. The distance of play could be.
Looks like somebody gave it a DuPont overhaul, But the bars look straight. If it went to $150 Id be amazed. Also the tires look to be in good shape. If you get it, Check the gear box. Clean it out and up, fill it with one can of Lucus Hub Sealer and hope for the best and top of with a HEAVY gear oil. As to how good those rakes are, My dad had a JD steel wheel rake. The gears that governed the direction of the teeth at ground level had worn enough to slip letting the teeth travel over the hay rather than move it. He got disgusted with it and parked it. I needed a rake and he gave it to me. I hauled it from near Atchison Kans to 40 miles S of Tulsa here around 30yrs ago. I welded teeth onto the old teeth with my stick welder. I poured the grease to it, and ive used it all these years. He asked a neighbor who was going to a sale that if they had a good looking rake to buy it. HE was thinking of a modern hump back rake. When he got home from mom being in the hospital he found, in perfect condition a steel wheel Case rake. Well, A little after that time, a guy I worked with had a rake he said he would give me. I went and got it, and it was a Case rake, steel wheel, Dad finally found a NH hump back rake and parked the case. I got it too. So Im fixed for life, and even will give the JD to my boy if he ever gets off his hiney and gets a place and needs one. Yeah. They work, and they work good. You just cant fly around the field with them. To guage speed, Find a young long legged kid and ask him to walk beside you as fast as he can. Thats the speed you need to be keeping, and youll do fine with it.

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Leroy

05-19-2011 17:31:55




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 Re: Old International Hay Rake in reply to farmallb, 05-19-2011 06:13:39  
$150 would be low end of price range, not worth as much as the version with high steel wheels at $500 range but I would say before taking the rubber off and putting steel on it would be $250, after on steel at $400



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farmallb

05-19-2011 19:11:47




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 Re: Old International Hay Rake in reply to Leroy, 05-19-2011 17:31:55  
In case your serious, you cant change them and leave the gearing as it is. That rake is geared for a smaller wheel than a steel wheeled rake



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Leroy

05-20-2011 18:12:45




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 Re: Old International Hay Rake in reply to farmallb, 05-19-2011 19:11:47  
I am serious and for to put steel on they would take a ready made stock steel wheel of the correct size 28" to 32" and just bolt on instead of the wheels for rubber, the tail wheels would be harder to come by but they would make those as well. The steel for the front run about $65 per wheel and I know they are made here in Ohio in a Factory that has no electricity to it and the factory runs off of 4 big deisel engines. And that factory is owned by the Amish in the heart of the biggest Amish community in the USA and I live close to the second biggest and supply them with machinery.

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