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freedom hill

06-10-2009 17:20:15




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What is agood big round baler?Am starting to look for a used baler and wondering what might be recomended? I only do 30 acres per year but need somthing dependable thanks




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Tx Jim

06-13-2009 03:59:40




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 Re: Round baler in reply to KEH, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
James Howell
A small community called Sand Flat,8 miles SW of Alvarado.

It aggravates me to leave loose hay in field but I use a 14 wheel rake and it doesn't rake in tight corners very well. Plus using a flat cutter & raking 3 cutter passes at once the center cut is undisturbed. I need to add kicker wheels to the rake.



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Tx Jim

06-12-2009 04:05:33




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 Re: Round baler in reply to Hay DR, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
James Howell

I not trying to pick on a fellow TEXAN but in your last pic in series what is on ground behind bale? It looked like un-baled hay to me.
All though every baler operator has there own opinion about which style is best I prefer a 4 ft width baler( for hauling 2 abreast on trailer) that makes a 1000# plus bale. I bale with a JD 467 and it will do that in 15% moisture Coastal Bermuda.and bale 25+/hr depending on amount of hay in windrow.
I custom bale hay so I need to bale as quick as possible and make good solid transportable bales with eye appeal that can be loaded/unloaded several times.
This post was edited by Tx Jim at 04:10:23 06/12/09.

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James Howell

06-12-2009 11:10:17




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 Re: Round baler in reply to Tx Jim, 06-12-2009 04:05:33  
As one Texan to another Texan, I truly consider this as "constructive criticism" and agree with you.

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Now let's see if I can "crawfish" my way out of this one.

This field of Bahia grass was probably cut too short ( 8" - 12" ) to begin with.

We had a choice of either baling or bush hogging so we chose baling to field test the Krone 125.

This was the first time we used the Krone 125 to bale hay.

The bale in question was the first bale made with the Krone 125.

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Here's a real ugly one that didn't tie right.

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Unrolled it later that day and did it right the second time.

What part of the Republic do you call home?

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kballein

06-11-2009 20:29:34




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
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I use a Hesston 530, electric tie, makes 39" X 52" bales. Supposed to only need 35 hp. I pull it with a JD 5303. I've only used it one year. It worked very well for me.

My first round baler was a Vermeer 504C which has a closed throat design. The hay had to be just right or it wouldn't start a bale.

I would recommend an open throat design baler.

Thanks,
Ken

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495man

06-14-2009 15:27:10




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 Re: Round baler in reply to kballein, 06-11-2009 20:29:34  
Do you have bale ramps on the 530? can't tell from the photo?

How fast can you bale with it?
I was considering an 8420 CaseIH which as far as I know is the exact same baler.
How's the 5303 work? I like the looks of that line, especially the new 5E series



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freedom hill

06-13-2009 09:48:20




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 Re: Round baler in reply to kballein, 06-11-2009 20:29:34  
Is the 530 the same as a 5530? which is newer? how heavy a bale does it make? thanks



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kballein

06-13-2009 17:03:15




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-13-2009 09:48:20  
I think the 530 is a newer version of the 5530, but not 100% sure.

The 530 makes a 39" X 52", bale at about 500 lbs. I've heard some say it makes lighter bales. I suppose it depends on the grass. I never actually weighed any.



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kilroylemmond1

06-11-2009 19:19:18




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
I have a JD 466 round baler with monitor and net wrap. To me that is the only way to go. If you watch the monitor it makes a good bale and automitally puts the net wrap on the bales. I had an older Vermeer and believe me there is no comparison.



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Robmn

06-11-2009 07:41:29




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
I use a IH 8480 open throat fixed chamber and works great for my 200 bales a yr, it has the dual electic tie easy to service but I would recomend at least 60 hp tractor,same as a new idea 486 and makes a 6x5 bale and can pick them up for a reasonable price.



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James Howell

06-11-2009 05:44:13




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
We bought a used Krone 260 baler that has a fixed chamber.

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With a fixed chamber, you do not need to form a core to start the bale.

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Very simple mechanical design and easy to maintain.

Whatever gets picked up gets wrapped in the bale; very little wasted hay on the ground.

Shortest grass baled was about 10" on third cutting.

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We also bought a Krone 125 as a backup baler.

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It makes the 4x4 bales.

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Be sure to find out the minimum horsepower required to run the baler.

Make sure the tractor you will use has the minimum horsepower to run the baler you buy.

Dealer service is also important for repairs and replacement parts.

Hope this helps.

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Justin-PA

06-11-2009 11:19:18




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 Re: Round baler in reply to James Howell, 06-11-2009 05:44:13  
James...How much HP do those Krone balers require?



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James Howell

06-11-2009 19:06:28




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 Re: Round baler in reply to Justin-PA, 06-11-2009 11:19:18  
The Krone 260 requires 40hp minimum.

The Krone 125 requires 32hp minimum.

We bought the pair for $3200 in Lincoln, AR. from a farm equipment dealer.

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Total repairs on the 2 have been $800.

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Erik Ks farmer

06-10-2009 20:21:57




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
I would recommed a 504 F, G, H Vermeer, I have an F and have really enjoyed it. Simple to operate and service, and very reliable balers.



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Wilton

06-10-2009 19:20:38




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
I agree with KEH. Dealer support is very important. A good NH chain baler on thirty acres
would do a good job. I had NH 851 which was okay but I would get an 855 if I were buying a chain baler. What type of tractor are you going to use?
I use a newer belt baler now. It is very easy to use. It does a great job but it was expensive.



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Btuce from Canada

06-10-2009 18:13:26




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  
If tou don"t need to have a hard core bale , the New Idea 483 soft core baler is a good one. Very few moving parts becauce of the fixed chamber, AND not alot of chain to oil or replace. I have had mine for about 12 years, made about 1000 bales per year with very littel in the way of repairs. Oh yeah it makes a 4x4 bale and dosen"t like wet hay.



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KEH

06-10-2009 17:38:47




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 Re: Round baler in reply to freedom hill, 06-10-2009 17:20:15  

One with dealer support nearby. Round balers in general started to have a good, really workable design in the mid 1980s to early 90s so I would check the date of manufacture. For Vermeers, I have owned a 504 F and a 505 I. The I is a huge improvement over the F. Later models are still better. I also owned a NH 847 and don't really want another chain baler, Reason being is the difficulty of changing or repairing broken chains.

As I undersdtand it, the first good JD balers were the 430-530 series. The 435 and 535 are supposed to be real good. A few years ago I was able to see balers demonstrated at a farm show on good well cured hay. The JD made the best bales.

Don't know about other makes, except that Hesston has usually made good equipment and NH hay equipment is almost always good.

Whem buying a used baler you ought to at least see it hooked to a tractor and hear it run.

KEH

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