Can anyone identify any of these implements? Lot of pics

I've been unable to figure out what any of these implements are. They came with the property we own. We also have a 1941 JD sickle bar and a JD hay rake built between 1940 and 1946, so there was probably a dealer in the area around that time. We have a No. 7 IHC McCormick-Deering sickle also, not sure when those were made. Other than that I don't know much about the time frame they are from.
If there are any different views that would help with the identification let me know.




^I don't even know what exactly you would call this sort of implement, everyone I've talked to has either called it a furrower or a plow. I didn't recognize the symbols on it, but they look like a crescent moon, a six-pointed star, and a triangle? It also has some gray paint on it. The yellow paint on it was because I messed up and accidently got it was some JD yellow when working a rim, so ignore that.




^Again, not sure what to call it exactly, but more people have been referring to it as a ditcher, so that's what I've been going with. It has some traces of green paint, so I was thinking maybe JD? I haven't seen any Oliver equipment in the area.




^This disc also has traces of green paint. If I would have been thinking I would have gotten a good top view picture, but it's out in a field right now so I'll have to wait a while for one. Also, would this be used for plowing or harrowing?






^This is an IH harrow. There is another identical section to it, but it wasn't handy. The wood has traces of what seems to be blue paint. The bolts between the teeth have cream paint and the rest has red, blue, and green. The number on the teeth reads:
450
704
R2

The first implement started out as a Ford/Dearborn or Ferguson Spring Shank Cultivator. It would have been used for row crops or field cultivation. It is missing many of the original shanks and springs and I think the wood and furrowers were added by a previous owner for some specific purpose.

The ditcher thing is pretty cool, never seen anything like it.

The third is a John Deere disc Model K or KB or KBA, i"m not sure but the model probably started with a "K". I think it is uncommon for a tandem pull type disc to be that wide. A disc is generally used for leveling after plowing has been done with a moldboard plow, but in the right conditions it can be used to break soil.

In what area of the world are you?

We're out in southeastern Idaho.
All the part numbers on the disc start with KK, I believe.

Here's an pic, it might be better.

Howcome I can't see any pictures on this site any more? All I get is red x's, tried modern view, same thing. Happened to several other threads in the past week - looks like the pics point to Photobucket, but I don't get to see the pics - others do. PC, IE, just doesn't show pics in these threads....

--->Paul

Paul: Not sure why the pictures aren't showing. Have you tried right clicking the X's and selecting show picture?
Try copying and pasting these links into your address bar, see if that works.
Unknown furrower/plow type thing:
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0606.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0607.jpg
Ditcher:
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0623.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0622.jpg
Disc:
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0625.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0626.jpg
Harrow:
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0708.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0709.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0710.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0696.jpg
New Disc Pic:
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/hjdreamcatcher/Other/IMG_0711.jpg

i can identify the disc as a 10ft.j.d. tandem drag disc. i think its a model kba.from the 1950s . i disced lots of field with one of them.there was a 7ft. 8ft. and 10ft. later they came out with hyd. lift. these had a rope on the hitch to a lever that you had to pull, then backupand reliese the rope.then to undeepen disc just pull the rope. this rope was usually tied to back of tractor seat, with kind of a quick release spring, incase you lost the hitch pin the rope let go.

We used a ditcher like that when I was a kid. Had wheels on the back, too. Where in Idaho?

First implement is a four-row cultivator set up for ditching the individual rows of the crop for irrigation.

Second is the ditcher for making the larger ditch at the headland.

The disc and harrow are self-explanatory.

Allan

We're a few miles outside of Aberdeen.

Anyone have an ID for the harrow?

the first one is used to throw beds up and make a place to plant. in some areas they planted on top of the bed and others planted down in the furrow. i think i'm remembering that right and seems like there were some articles in green magazine or two cylinder about this practice, but i don't remember which month or year. the old thing with spikes is, in n al, called a section harrow. got to be the oldest one i've every seen. it was probably used behind a mule team and not a tractor.

John Deere KBA disk of 11'2" rear gang cutting width and McDerring spike tooth harrow of 5' for each section and 2 sections were just the correct size to pullbehind that disk for smoothing the ground and both the items were made in the 40's & 50's. I have 5 of those harrow sections here now and the manuals for both the disk and harrow.

No,

You're not "remembering right". That is not a “bedder”; not even close. :>)

The thing is a simple cultivator set up to ditch row crops in irrigated farming.

Since it appears to be a Ford cultivator (four row) and since the shovels are beet and bean units (non-aggressive), it was more than likely used on dry edible beans in the irrigated country of southern Idaho area down there around Twin Falls.

However, I didn't read the magazine. Just going on years of irrigated farm experience. :>(

Allan

Thank you. Pics are showing on my laptop now.

I'll have to check out what is up with my desktop, I tried showing the pic & also got the links from the Properties & they just wouldn't show on the desktop machine....


Anyhow, looks like you got good advice on it all.

The disk needs a new blade on the front right gang, the harrow looks pretty weak to be used, the ditcher looks like it was somewhat home-built or at least home re-enforced.

Here in the wet Minnesota only know the disk & harrow, thanks for the pics of the other items - dry-land farming is something that would sound good when I'm fighting weeks of mud....

--->Paul

I don't know what they used to grow out here, but now it's all alfalfa, grass(for hay and pasture), wheat, potatoes, sugar beets, and a little bit of corn. I think the university grew some canola or something similar. Twin Falls is about 115 miles from here.
It used to be flood irigated, but it's all pressurized now, not sure when they switched. Works great as long as everything stays together, makes a mess when stuff comes apart.
That disc needs quite a few things, we were using it because we needed to get that field in, but that's not going to happen now, tractor keeps breaking. As soon as one thing is fixed something else gives.
We have a brand new harrow, still on the truck because we need a loader to get it out and ours is having issues. I'm supposed to try to fix that old one, not sure how well that will work, but I got a little bit of time so I'll see what I can do with it.