Teach me about a IH 1420 Combine

ChampagneNBeer · Aug 19, 2020

Hi All,

What can anyone tell me about an IH 1420?

One is available near me with both a 4 row corn head and grain head.

Good? Bad? What to watch out for? What is expensive to fix if broken/bad?

Capacity? Reverser?

Easy tinkerer? Parts readily available?

Thanks 😀

DR. EVIL · Aug 20, 2020

I'm not an expert, just repeating comments from others answering this exact same question. The 1420 is a unique smaller rotor and separator than other axial flow combines. The new old stock part supply has pretty well been picked over. That leaves used machines as your parts source. Nothing wrong with that, my brother-in-law has been keeping two 6620 Deere's running with used parts for over 20 years.
The advice most given to this question is to look for a 1460, more of them built, more new parts available since it has common parts with newer machines, and it will handle the 4 row headers better in high yielding corn, even run 6-30 heads. Bigger grain tank, heavier axles and final drives, bigger engine, and probably the same price or less than the 1420.

Case Nutty 1660 · Aug 20, 2020

Friend bought one new here,, 22' hdr used only in small grains,, he hated it as it was so gutless, there was a turbo kit for it that was supposed to help but he ended up trading it off for a 1480,, his had less than 250 hrs when he traded,, just repeating what he said I never ran it,, he said by cutting across the fence from me my 1969 CASE 1660 would out perform it any day,, I know I was sure cutting more across a day than he was and I have a 20' hdr,, and had higher yielding grain

Bob Bancroft · Aug 20, 2020

I have a CaseIH axial flow 1660. I do corn and small grains with it. 6x30" corn head, and 20' flex head. I believe it was mainly a bean machine in its prior life. It really shines in corn. Lots of capacity, and does a nice job. When I started into small grain I had lots of challenges. I ended up doing everything I could to get it to feed and work correctly. Adjusted the header auger according to the manual[it was way off]. Installed new serrated blades on the the stone trap beater, and changed drive sprocket. Installed the straw fingers over the stone trap. Installed Kile "rotor flights" on the front of the rotor. It does OK now, but in heavy straw, I wouldn't want a bigger header on it.

Mike Fitz · Aug 20, 2020

Dr. Evil has it right, look for a 1440 or 1460(even better), 1420's are an oddball machine now, the 1440/1460 was the same basic machine all the way up to the 2366, almost anything you can think of is avaliable through Case IH or aftermarket, not horrible to work on, and decent reliability, 1440's were a little under built in the drive train and chassis, the 1460 got the setup closer to right. The newer machines use the same threshing set up but are built heavier as they are pushed harder for more capicity.

sleepy1 · Aug 20, 2020

The 20 series was always call orphan of the rotaries as far as parts go.You can get a 40 or 60 series for about the same price.

GreenEnvy · Aug 20, 2020

Thats really not a straight fair comparison. Either your friend was conned by an IH salesman or had unreal expectations because the 1420 was the replacement for the 715 conventional which had a 37" cylinder/separator by far smaller then a 1660.. I would expect your 1660 to give a 1440 stiff competition.

Case Nutty 1660 · Aug 21, 2020

I was just stating what happened,, I have never ran a axial-flow,, got friend who do but they all have the bigger ones,, I agree my 1660 is a heck of a grain eating machine,, but its some 40 years older in design as well,, guess it proves how good they were when built, it will still save grain clean it and with less damage than anything i have seen made before during or after it,,

Case Nutty 1660 · Aug 21, 2020

paul · Aug 21, 2020

As others say, good small machine, but it is unique and so parts are getting hard to find. The other models share a lot of parts and so there is a bigger supply of aftermarket and OEM available.

Paul

Charlie M · Aug 21, 2020

It does a good job of harvesting grass hoppers. LOL

casecollectorsc · Aug 21, 2020

First axial flow combines came out in 1977. The 14 series was the first group.

Case Nutty 1660 · Aug 22, 2020

I was removing at least 90% of them which is not a easy thing to do,, we had drought here and the hoppers are very bad this year a couple shots from other years I hold the State record on a clean sample and have for over 40 years ,,

centash · Aug 22, 2020

Sure is a nice sample! Takes a careful operator and a good machine to deliver that clean of grain.

Ben

the tractor vet · Aug 22, 2020

A 1420 is a Nice LITTLE small acreage machine . Ya want to run a 4 row corn head fine , and if you stay with no bigger then a 15 foot header here again Fine . Power wise i will agree a bit light on pony power . If ya don't try and add a bin extension and add more weight to the machine helps . As for parts it seems the ag industry is getting like the car industry and discontinue parts after a few years . as for the 1440's from what i have been around them and worked on a couple over here in the hills they are GUTLESS pigs with a total lack of pony power .

SVcummins · Aug 23, 2020

Case Nutty 1660 · Aug 30, 2020

Nice looks like you have some Canada thistle in the field? I never had a problem getting a JD 55/95/4400/6600/8820/9600 to clean the grain ran all of them at one time or another, it was the cracking and spitting it back out the feeder house I disliked,, never seen one that did not do it here in small grains,,

casecollectorsc · Aug 31, 2020

I use the 105 feederhouse on my JI Case 1660 and 1665 and have never had back feeding problems in small grain, beans or corn. In 40+ years they have handled a lot of grain.

Case Nutty 1660 · Aug 31, 2020

adding a JD feeder house to a CASE machine is not the same as one on a JD,, I Never once said it back fed, I said they SPIT threshed grain out the front in the spring I could always tell when a JD cut for us, you could track them on every round,, CASE machines do not do that, never seen it on a MF or NH TR Series either we had custom cutters through the years that ran Deere's I ran almost every one at some point,, as well as 760 MF and TR70 NH's my Fav JD was the 8820,, did the best job for a later machine in that color I thought,, the 55/95's were also good, the flat belt drives would give issues if they did not keep the adjuster set for good tension though in heavy grains,, but was a moderate issue of maintenance more than a design flaw, the 440 dsl I ran brand new was a nice machine also but a 1000/1010/1060 would eat them running side by side,,

GreenEnvy · Aug 31, 2020

Just curious what kind of 55/95s did you run? I’m just curious because the squareback ones had double V belt drive for the separator. Those came out in 1964 and JD made a big deal about it because of the problems similar to what you said. All the previous roundback ones had flat belt drive. IH continued to use the flat belt drive on their 03 series but they used a clutch instead of belt pulley tightener. Still I think they came out with V belt drive later or it might have been an upgrade done later by IH or the dealers.

Case Nutty 1660 · Aug 31, 2020

The ones I ran were round backs,, its been a few decades maybe I am thinking of the 45/55 models we took in trade, I can only remember the 95's being on our ground one time that was 67/68 I think what ever the year was I just slid in the seat and ran one a bin or two is all,, I remember the owners complaining about the slipping in heavy grain when pushing them hard,, maybe I crossed wires in my head what model it was they said that about,

SVcummins · Aug 31, 2020

Ive never cracked grain with mine or spit it out the feeder house or the back . Lots of thistle field had just came out of organic

SVcummins · Aug 31, 2020

Sounds like a pi$$ poor operator to me

Highwayman · Sep 3, 2020

I had one with a turbo and that thing was an animal in corn. Prior machine was a JD 4400 and there was no comparison. Like said before none of the rotor or concave parts were available aftermarket. But most of the rest was. I really liked it. Used h Th o run a 4 row corn and 15’ 820 in about 150 acres corn and 100 beans
Unfortunately it burned up on me

moeszyslak · Sep 3, 2020

Good machines and like with any combine you need to look everything over. Much easier to work on then other machines. It would be hard to think of any part you could not get or repair.

rdandersom · Sep 4, 2020

My nieghbour had one. He liked it. His had no stone trap which led to an expensive rebuild.

Case Nutty 1660 · Sep 4, 2020

I know you love your JD's and that great but they are not the only thing out there,, I have many decades of running combines and most every piece of equipment made used here both in AG and CE units over you and I bet many thousands of hours and acres cut in many brands of machines,, including JD's,, they are fine for sure but not even close to the best out there in my opinion,, just because you do not like what i say does not make it untrue, lol hell I was cutting wheat decades before you were even thought of by your parents, so get over it,, many do not like what I run either, all part of life,, but hey guess what i will just quit posting any thing on any pages you visit or your posts will that make you feel better? I sure hope so,, I have been pretty reserved in what i have posted,, I always could be far more Blunt in my words,, I am sure many here will REJOICE if I quit posting my words make some people feel bad so I guess its time to let ones like you run with your lines of dribble,, Enjoy

4520BW · Sep 4, 2020

I'll agree the 20 series deere do the best threshing and cleaning. I still run a 7720 along with the 9500 and 9510 and it does the best job. I will also say I have never seen a case combine in my life besides yours! Sure does a good job and that says alot for the operator too.

Hockeygoon · Sep 13, 2020

Engine hours?

Seperator hours?

Without that information no one can tell you anything accurate.

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