Welcome! Please use the navigational links on your left to explore our website.

Company Logo Shop Now
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Tractor Town
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

Related Sites
Tractor Shed
Ford 8N/9N Club
Today's Tractors
Garden Tractors
Classic Trucks
Kountry Life
  
Combines & Harvesters Discussion Forum

Gleaner Variable Speed

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author  [Modern View]
Andy Airgood

08-01-2020 15:18:25




Report to Moderator

Iíve removed the clutch on my fathers Gleaner F. In addition to clutch problems the variable speed doesnít work. Since I have the transmission drive belt off Iím wondering if it would be a good time to look at the variable speed. I really donít understand the mechanics of the variable speed. Could anyone tell me how they work and common problems with them?




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Farmall Nut

08-09-2020 08:28:29




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-01-2020 15:18:25  
Neighbor had a K with stuck transmission inner sheave from lack of grease. He filled a grease gun with transmission fluid and pumped it in. That and the splitting wedges freed it. If you disassemble it, theres a seal, (ORing) inside the inner sheave. replace it. Same on the variable inner and outer sheave.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Farmall Nut

08-09-2020 08:21:20




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-01-2020 15:18:25  
Wooden or Plastic splitting wedges are good for this job. Dont nick the inside surface of the sheave as that will damage the belt. While in there, check the finger bushings as the fingers tend to wear the bushing and make an elongated hole in the inner sheave. This is especially an issue on the variable drive sleeve. I wore out 2 Fs and kept rebuilding and running them. Theyre great machines. Simple but clean the crop really well. Back in the day before rear wheel assist was popular, an F was the only thing running in a wet season because theyre so lite.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
paul

08-02-2020 18:48:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-01-2020 15:18:25  
Itís been so long since I worked on my F but it was pretty simple, unscrew the bolts until things came apart enough. The sheave just came off if you got those adjustment bolts out, but remember where they are set at.

As mentioned, an F2 or F3 is built differently.

Paul



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Farmall Nut

08-02-2020 18:13:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-01-2020 15:18:25  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

I thought I made it clear that the cylinder was mounted to the rear of variable sheave. Follow the hydraulic line.
If you have an F2 itsa different animal.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
XT180

08-02-2020 15:58:27




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-01-2020 15:18:25  
Andy, can you look on the Agco Parts Book site to get an picture of what's involved? We ran an F for multiple years but never repaired that issue. Replacing the main counter shaft bearing behind the seperator clutch was a real b^&*h though :(



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Andy Airgood

08-09-2020 04:33:54




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to XT180, 08-02-2020 15:58:27  
It looks like the problem is with the front pulley coming off the transmission clutch. Going from an F2 to an F and didnít realize it needed to be greased so something probably seized up. I still would welcome input if anyone is familiar with this part of the combine.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Bancroft

08-09-2020 05:27:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-09-2020 04:33:54  
For what it's worth, my aging recollections- Some models had a little window in the outer sheave, some had the grease fitting right in the end of the shaft. As I recall, all were greaseable. There's an o-ring near the sheave side of the sliding hub to keep grease from getting on the belt. The grease would then be forced to go through the hub, away from the belt, towards the spring. Big, heavy spring is in a canister. Canister can collect quite a lot of gunk, given excess grease, and grain dust/dirt. It got complicated when they added splines to the shaft, and mating parts with a cam, so that with more torque required to go up hill, or through a mud hole, the sheaves would squeeze the belt tighter. The outer, stationary sheave is keyed to the shaft, on a taper. I would use a bar, various pieces of wood between the sheaves, or the belt, if still on the combine, to put pressure on it, and pound the daylights out of the hub to get it to pop loose, after loosening the nut.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Farmall Nut

08-02-2020 12:50:47




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-01-2020 15:18:25  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

On an F the hydraulic cylinder is directly mounted to the rear of variable sheave. Pushing hydraulic lever in cab forward causes the cylinder to retract or expand the sheave. The sheave mounted on transmission input is spring loaded. Adjust so that the hydraulic sheave doesnt touch when closed. May need to adjust the cross shaft to achieve this. Grease these but dont over do it as it will sling grease onto belt and cause slippage. Get a manual. Once youve gone thru the steps it will be easy to understand. Simple but effective speed control

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
centash

08-01-2020 19:40:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-01-2020 15:18:25  
There should be a small hydraulic cylinder on the sheave, that pushes in or out, allowing the belt to run at different speeds as the radius of the sheave changes. A newer F series may have an internal hydraulic that does the same thing.

Ben



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Andy Airgood

08-02-2020 14:23:29




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to centash, 08-01-2020 19:40:45  
How do you get to the cylinder?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Andy Airgood

08-02-2020 04:02:25




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to centash, 08-01-2020 19:40:45  
How do you get to the cylinder?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
centash

08-02-2020 05:19:16




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-02-2020 04:02:25  
The outer sheave has to be removed....been years since I had one apart, a service manual is your best guide.

Ben



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
flying belgian

08-01-2020 17:37:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: Gleaner Variable Speed in reply to Andy Airgood, 08-01-2020 15:18:25  
Well this is a shot in the dark but I've had it where the sheeve is over greased. It then collects dust and gets packed in channels and limits its range of travel.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2020 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy