Onan Oversize Intake Seats

I've been rebuilding Onan CCK, B & P series engines for just over 20 years and have seen a few intake seats come loose on the P series .

Early P series blocks did not have a good peened over area to lock the intake seat in place. On the later blocks Onan corrected that problem. They only offer a +.010" oversize seat but by the time you figure out what's going on the seat bore is to sloppy for the .010" oversize seat to be any good.

Most if not all shops or dealers will tell you the block is junk and needs to be replaced. Not true! Several options are available. I have +.100" & +.162" oversize seats that any good automotive machine shop can install in your block.

The original seats are .355" thick and mine are .437" thick. If the seat bore has not been hammered down too far then the block can be machined to fit one of these oversize seats.

If your block is too far gone it can in most cases be welded or built back up and then machined for a STD size seat.
 
Sure,

The top of the seat needs to end up being about .020" below the top of the seat bore so there is enough material to peen over the edge of the seat and lock it in. My oversize seats in most cases will protrude above the block/seat bore area and need to be cut down to reach the proper depth.

Once the seat bore has been machined square or "round" check the depth and compare to the replacement seat thickness. If the old loose seat did not hammer it's way into the port area and you have a nice shoulder at the bottom of the bore to drive the new seat into it should end up being just slightly above the seat bore.

I use two seat drivers, one that has a slightly smaller od than the seat for install and a second one with an od slightly larger to peen or pound the bore shoulder down and over the seat to lock it in.

Seat bore should be about .007" smaller than the new seat for a good interference fit. Heat the block in a oven at 200 degress for 45 minutes prior to installing the seat.

If you don't have the correct guide and driver tools this is best left to a shop that does it often.

TJ
 
TJ,
Thank you for taking the time to explain the process in more detail. I have a John Deere 318 and hopefully I won"t have to deal with this issue but, if I do, now I will know how to handle it.
Jack
 

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