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fixitforfree

03-17-2005 20:23:52




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Looking to buy a Honda 4514 - any of you had experiences with these mowers? Is the cut quality excellent? fair? Just fishing for any info on these units.




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Bob in GA

03-21-2005 16:54:42




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 Re: Honda 4514 in reply to fixitforfree, 03-17-2005 20:23:52  
I have had a 4514 for about 12 years. The mower finish is fine. About 4 years ago the mower clutch (used to turn the mower on)went out and my dealer wanted 800 dollars to replace it. But said that he would not warrant the repairs, to get a warranty he stated that I would have to buy a new engine ($2100). I replaced it myself (250) and it ran for about a year and then when it came back from the dealer for a tune up, it would not work again. Overall it has been a good machine, very quiet and I love that part.

Any other questions, let me know.

Bob Owen
bobowen67@yahoo.com

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Bob in GA

03-30-2005 19:39:00




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 Re: Honda 4514 in reply to Bob in GA, 03-21-2005 16:54:42  
Greg:

Lets cover this thing one item at a time:

1. Was it hard to get off? Not really but you
probably will need a wheel puller. Once that was off
it was just removing the parts as you come to them. You have to dismantle the front end, (grill radiator
etc)

2. Will you have to buy a complete clutch: Probably
not. This is not the problem that I have had, but I
had to buy 3 parts, and not every one.

3. Do you need a manual. The answer is probably. I
know that I could not have done it without. Now if you can wait until next week to reassemble the mower
and can give me a fax number I can fax you a few pages
that should cover the clutch problem. I would search
the Internet to see if you can find the operators
manual. I know that is where I got my current copy.
Both the Shop manual and the parts list are good to
have. I you only get one, get the shop manual.

Engine Oil. I just use 10w-30 Havoline. Havoline
just because that is what I use in my cars. It holds
just a little over 1 quart, and just a little more
with the filter changed.

When you speak of hydraulic oil, I am guessing this
means Hydrostatic oil for the transmission. The
dipstick is the black cap under the seat. The drain
plug is (as you are looking from the back of the
tractor), the drain plug is on the bottom right side
under the axle. Capacity is 5.28 qts. Hold on to
your walled. This oil is expensive and you must use
their brand supposedly. Its name is Honda HYDROSTATIC
TRANSMISSION FLUID. To my knowledge there is no
filter.

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fixitforfree

03-30-2005 10:16:43




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 Re: Honda 4514 in reply to Bob in GA, 03-21-2005 16:54:42  
Hey Bob, I am the fellow that posted about buying the used Honda 4514 that you posted with a few weeks ago. Well, I bought it and the guy told me it had a bearing out in the deck. But, I took the deck off and all the bearings are free. It is the clutch that is binding. It would engage the blades but was in a bind and loaded the motor real bad. You said you replaced your's yourself, was it hard to get off to replace? I have no manual or anything to this mower and just want some help. I have looked at planopower.com and see that parts are available to the clutch so I might not have to buy the entire clutch? I am a very good mechanic but just have no manual to go by - do I need it? Also, what kind of motor oil do you use and what is the capacity? Does the hydraulic system have a drain plug and filter so that I can service it? Sorry for the questions, just wonder if you can help out. By the way, the engine runs great and the mower will be good once I get the clutch fixed. I am a do-it-yourself guy so I'm not scared to tackle it just want to learn all I can before jumping in.

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fixitforfree

03-21-2005 19:04:03




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 Re: Honda 4514 in reply to Bob in GA, 03-21-2005 16:54:42  
I have found 1 other person with a 4514 for several years such as yourself and he really likes his also. The clutch on these mower you speak of is not electric is it? Seems like it is mechanical if I remember correctly. If I'm right, I'm surprised it ever went out??? Anyway, does the 14hp seem strong enough in thick grass? Does the engine use any oil after 12 years of use? Thanks for your comments. I haven't bought the mower I'm looking at yet but maybe he'll take my offer soon...

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Bob in GA

03-22-2005 12:40:05




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 Re: Honda 4514 in reply to fixitforfree, 03-21-2005 19:04:03  
I have cut weeds as high as the top of the mower hood and grass up to about 6 inches. You have to slow way down but it will do it. Sometimes clogs at the discharge but with a stick you can keep going.

No oil burning, the engine has been very good. The only major problem has been the clutch. And you are right it is mechanical. Mower deck has been very strong. I have changed belts a couple times but that is it.

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fixitforfree

03-22-2005 21:41:14




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 Re: Honda 4514 in reply to Bob in GA, 03-22-2005 12:40:05  
Sounds like all Honda engines I"ve ever been around. I have an old Honda 11hp horizontal engine (model GV400) that has been used and abused on a Snapper 33" rear-engine rider. It is amazing. If it is only 11hp then the Briggs that say 11hp must only be about 6!!! The Honda has much more torque. When the going gets tough it will reach and get it. And this old Honda GV400 is not even an overhead valve engine. Just the old flathead side valve design.

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Bob in GA

03-22-2005 22:15:04




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 Re: Honda 4514 in reply to fixitforfree, 03-22-2005 21:41:14  
I thought of this after I sent the last note. The clutch is such a problem on these that the place that I buy parts for it online has a special blow up of the clutch assembly, so yo order the right parts. By the way that web site is planopower.com



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fixifforfree

03-23-2005 04:46:52




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 Re: Honda 4514 in reply to Bob in GA, 03-22-2005 22:15:04  
Planopower is Plano Power Equipment in Plano, Texas. I live in Rockwall, Tx which is about 20 minutes from that store. I have bought things from them in the past. It's a small world...



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