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Re: Update on the 1977 Wheelhorse B80 project.

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fbh44

08-20-2019 07:29:53




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I always replace the ordinary steel nuts and bolts on batteries with stainless steel. Stops corrosion, stops resistance in the electrical circuit, does not corrode. Helps a great deal, I always think. Makes it easy to assemble and dissemble.




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keith true

08-21-2019 16:18:50




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 Re: Update on the 1977 Wheelhorse B80 project. in reply to fbh44, 08-20-2019 07:29:53  
I have three of those series tractors,12,14,and 16 HP.The only safety start switch is the pedal switch.No seat or PTO switch.Those only switch the ignition anyway,not the starting circuit.I see you have a 4 post solenoid,did you check with a test light to make sure you have the signal wire hooked to the right terminal? Also,how did you come to buy the solenoid that you did?If you just walked into a store and matched it you could easily have gotten the wrong one.Modern snowplow solenoids look like yours,but they work differently.They won't work in your tractor.Just because they look alike doesn't mean they act alike.Some solenoids activate by sending a hot signal to it,and some activate by GROUNDING the little wire.On that series tractors you need what the parts guys called an old Ford solenoid.Hot cable from the battery,cold going to the starter,and a signal terminal that activated when juice was put to it.

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johnlobb

08-22-2019 18:55:38




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 Re: Update on the 1977 Wheelhorse B80 project. in reply to keith true, 08-21-2019 16:18:50  
Keith, we bought the new battery and solenoid at Menards in the small engine parts section. And when I first installed the new solenoid, I hooked it up to the other terminal. Did not work. When I had to replace a solenoid on my Troy Bilt (2001 22hp B & S Intek) I replaced a 1 terminal solenoid with a 2 terminal 1 from Family Farm and Home small engine repair parts dept and it has worked well. I did not bring my VOM with me, next time I will to check if there is power coming from the wire that comes from the key switch when the key is turned to start.

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keith True

08-23-2019 05:37:39




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 Re: Update on the 1977 Wheelhorse B80 project. in reply to johnlobb, 08-22-2019 18:55:38  
If you bought it just by comparing it to one you had it could be the wrong one.Those solenoids might look the same,but do different things.A little parts store here in town had a big display of small engine/tractor parts on the floor.Guys would come in with ignition switches,and try to match them up.The store owner would try to tell them,you need to have me look up your application,just because the plug fits doesn't mean it is right for you.He said he had two customers burn electrical parts in Craftsman tractors because they bought by comparison,not application.You really need to test things first,just throwing parts at it usually doesn't work,and using wrong parts can sometimes make it worse.

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