Tractor identification

Otto V

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I edited my post several times, but I keep getting the same message. What am I doing wrong?
 

I have been in touch with the administrators, I should be good to go now.

I'm hoping someone can help me figure out the model and year of this Ford tractor (and then help me with an issue I'm having with the 3-point hitch). I believe this is a Fordson Dexta, my uncle purchased it used in 1971. Here are some pics.


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You have a Fordson Petrol Dexta built in January 1964. Can you post the engine
number from just above the coil, starts FPL .... and the serial number from the
flange just behind the fuel pump. There were only 4000 of those made at the most out
of a Dexta build of over 200000 Dextas and Super Dextas made.

What problem do you have with the hydraulics? Two ones usually occur,
1). Lift stuck up or raises even with the lever in the lowering position = Stuck
Unload valve. or
2). No lift at all = Stuck flow control valve.

Neither is a big problem if you are handy with spanners and take your time. With the
unload valve the top will have to come off so you will need either a strong back and
a helper or some form of lifting device. I have done many both ways and can
recommend the lifting device. ;0)
 
Thank you for the information Majorman. The number above the coil is FPL 3882E. The number behind the fuel pump is very hard to read, I [b:dcb089a8f9]think[/b:dcb089a8f9] it is 09D945367.

This tractor has been used since 1971 to clean snow, using a grader blade for a few years, then a snow blower. My 88 year old uncle was the operator for most of those years, but he "retired" a few years ago.

The hydraulic is operating and it seems to have plenty of lifting power. The problem I'm having is, it is not lifting the snow blower high enough off the ground. Following are some pictures with the hitch in it's lowest and highest position. Total lift measured at the drawbar is approximately 16". I have no idea when the oil was last changed, but I did have to add some oil to raise it to the level of the plug.

The 3rd picture shows how much higher the drawbar will raise (if I lift it by hand).


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Thamks for the numbers, they confirm that she is indeed 1964 and your engine is
quite close to the last engine which was FPL4427E. The first was FPL27E. My own
petrol is close to the start of the build FPL487E and she spent her life in New
Zealand.

As far as the lift is concerned, there is a small lever under the main control
quadrant that changes the lift operation from Draught Control to Position Control,
Draught is down, Position is up. Try moving this into the other service and see what
happens. Then try pushing the lever back towards the axle when the lift is at its
highest.

If it goes up higher, your problem is wear on the Position Control cam follower pin.
The top will have to come off and the pin replaced. Not a bad job, you should still
be able to get a new pin from a Case New Holland dealer or a piece of round steel
the correct size will do. The pin will tap out and in but try not to use too much
force as you could bend the linkage.


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The cam follower pin is between the two springs in the picture.
 

Thanks for verifying the age . . . that tractor is [b:fc40176714]almost[/b:fc40176714] as old as I am :eek:

I did as you suggested with the draft control lever . . . I moved it to the down position and nothing happened. Then I pushed it back towards the axle, and the lift went all the way to the top. I hate the thought of having to take to take the top end off, but at least I now know what the problem is. I'm sure I will be posting a whole bunch more questions before this job is done :( [/u]

Would you be able to give me a brief rundown of the steps involved?
 

A friend of mine provided me with a link to an [b:114131c8be]Original Fordson Dexta Repair Manual[/b:114131c8be]. I copied the following information from the hydraulic section . . . are these the steps required to remove the top cover?

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The only things I would add to that is:

1 ... The lift arms must be in the lowered position when you lift as the bit with
the connecting rod will foul the rear axle housing as you lift.

2 ... You will need to lift the rear of the lift slightly higher than the front to
get it clear.
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These should give you some idea of what to expect. Do not rest the lift on any of
the linkage or bend or damage the linkage in any way. There is also a setting up
proceedure which should be listed in your book. It will say use special tools but
they are not needed, get back to me when you get that far.

Brian
 

I'm surprised how easily the top came off. I unfortunately have no hoist, so I (and my old uncle) had to muscle it off. Your diagnosis of a worn pin was spot on, but in my case, the cam is also damaged. The pin is almost worn in half and the cam is heavily scored.

The pin is not a problem, I have a lathe and should be able to easily make a replacement.

The casting with the cam is another matter. What are the chances of getting a replacement and/or having that one repaired?

Here are some pics.


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The cause of the worn pin is because the tractor has been used constantly in Position
Control, when used in Draught Control the pin does not run on the cam. You will also
need to go through the setting procedure before re-fitting the top just to be sure
everything is correct.

A thought if you are concerned about cam wear and have a lathe, you could make the pin
with a step in it, sized to fit in the arm but the cam side could be slightly bigger.

Brian
 
(quoted from post at 13:28:45 09/27/22)

I got the pin replaced, everything re-installed and tested earlier today . . . success!!! My snow blower is sitting on a skid, and before the repair it would barely lift it off the skid. Now, it lifts at least 8"-9" higher than the skid. On level ground, I figure it will easily lift it a foot or more. It should make snow removal less of a chore this year.

Below is a closeup of the worn pin, hard to believe such a little part could make such a big difference.

Majorman, thank you very much for all your help . . . I really appreciate it :D

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