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Kelly Wright

07-05-1999 04:30:02




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I have a 5 speed 860 I bought about a year ago. I'm in the process of repairing a number of minor leaks here and there, including several associated with the transmission. I have several questions regarding this transmission:

The first is in regards to the oil or fluid to use in this unit. The service manual (which I own) suggests using "Mild Extreme Pressure Lubricant SAE 80". What might be a modern equivelant of this fluid? I already have five gallons of a Shell "Premium AQ Hydraulic Oil". Will this be adequate for the transmission?

Second question... On the bottom of the transmission case, to the right (as facing the front of the tractor), slightly forward of the drain plug there is a square plate attached. I can find no reference to this plate in any of the service material I have. This plate, which is about 4 inches by 4 inches, is attached with 4 bolts. There is oil seepage from around this plate. My thought has been to drain the transmission oil, and while the unit is empty, drop this plate and replace the gasket at the same time. Will this work as I think it will, or would there be problems if I pull this plate off or other issues to be aware of? BTW, what's this plate for?

Last question... On the left of the tranny are three "plugs", which are described as "shift rail spring seats". There is also oil weeping from two of the three plugs. Again, I was thinking after draining the transimission, remove the two offending plugs and replacing the gaskets (I tried snugging them down but that didn't stop the leaks). Can these plugs be removed in the context I describe, the gaskets replaced and reinstalled without creating other problems?

Thanks in advance!

Kelly

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Dave Mischler

07-05-1999 15:37:36




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 Re: 860 Transmission Questions in reply to Kelly Wright, 07-05-1999 04:30:02  
1. I use 80w/90 gear lube in the transmission. Many others use the Ford/New Holland 134D fluid.

2. Clutch housing inspection plate. The oil could be from the rear of your engine, or the front of the transmission.

3. There are interlock plungers and springs behind the seals. I don't think the transmission oil should come up as far as the plugs.

Good Luck.



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Kelly Wright

07-05-1999 16:35:16




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 Re: Re: 860 Transmission Questions in reply to Dave Mischler, 07-05-1999 15:37:36  
I believe I have answers to all my questions now.

Regarding the oil around the two plugs on the transmission... after carefully looking the tractor over today in good light, I now suspect the oil is leaking from the steering housing and running ever so slowly down the case and being captured by the indentations around the plugs.

Thansk to everyone who responded...

Kelly



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Bryan

07-05-1999 09:39:32




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 Re: 860 Transmission Questions in reply to Kelly Wright, 07-05-1999 04:30:02  
The only one I can help with is the 4" X 4 " plate. It is only an inspection plate for the clutch housing. If there is oil leaking from around it, you either have a rear main seal leaking or the front transmission seal is leaking. You can remove the plate without draining the transmission.



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kailee

01-31-2004 18:08:01




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 Re: Re: 860 Transmission Questions in reply to Bryan, 07-05-1999 09:39:32  
my car sucks. how do i go about getting my transmission scanned 2 c if it is a loose screw or censor, or whether or not i need a totally new transmission?



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Kelly Wright

07-05-1999 11:38:38




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 Re: Re: 860 Transmission Questions in reply to Bryan, 07-05-1999 09:39:32  
Bryan, thanks for your response. It's been helpful.

I did remove the plate, and though the inside surface of the plate did have a bit of "gunk" on it, it was quite oil-free inside the housing. I suspect the oil is migrating from somewhere else and showing up on one of the bolts that attaches the inspection plate. This one bolt may be a low spot on the tractor.

One other question regarding this inspection plate. There is a small hole drilled in the middle of the plate, say about 3/16 dia or so. I'm guessing it's not original (from the factory), but I'm not sure. Is this original, and if so, what's it's purpose. If it's not original, I'll probably plug it with a short bolt/nut to prevent contamination from getting into the housing.

Thanks...

Kelly

> The only one I can help with is the 4" X 4 " > plate. It is only an inspection plate for the
> clutch housing. If there is oil leaking from > around it, you either have a rear main seal
> leaking or the front transmission seal is > leaking. You can remove the plate without > draining the transmission.

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DON'T PLUG IT - Dave Mischler

07-05-1999 15:31:06




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 Re: Re: Re: 860 Transmission Questions in reply to Kelly Wright, 07-05-1999 11:38:38  
The hole in the clutch housing inspection plate should contain a large cotter pin, bent so that it can move, but not fall out. The design goal of this kludge is to get the bouncing cotter pin to keep the hole clear so that leaking oil will drain, and so it won't reach the clutch plates.



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Kelly Wright

07-05-1999 16:30:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 860 Transmission Questions in reply to DON'T PLUG IT - Dave Mischler, 07-05-1999 15:31:06  
Now that I know what the hole is for, I'll pick up a large cotter pin and install it as you suggest.

Thanks!

Kelly



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Bryan

07-05-1999 09:38:33




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 Re: 860 Transmission Questions in reply to Kelly Wright, 07-05-1999 04:30:02  
The only one I can help with is the 4" X 4 " plate. It is only an inspection plate for the clutch housing. If there is oil leaking from around it, you either have a rear main seal leaking or the front transmission seal is leaking. You can remove the plate without draining the transmission.



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