1955 Ford 800 photo help

Can any of you help with photos of a completed 800 on detail items for restoration? The manuals and parts books are only getting me so far. Not finding much help with internet photos either.

This is a show tractor that will still work, but lightly. Im trying to figure out original bends in oil lines and other things. Mine had a hard life as Im sure most did.

This has been a restoration gone too long. I need help and guidance.

Thank you

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Hi and welcome.

Which oil lines are you referring to when you mention "original bends in oil lines"?

You also need to be more specific than "and other things" if you want any help with those other things.
 
Thank you for your reply, and I apologize for being so vague.



The line in question is the pressure line to the gauge and the bracket and where it mounts.



Dennis Carpenter shows this going below the battery box and the service manual shows it above the battery under the tank. My line was bent so badly I have no way of knowing what was correct. The photos in the service manual could be from a 55-60 600-700-800-900, 601-701-801-901-1801. I have no knowledge of Fords other than working on this tractor, which is likely an early 55 because my boards are completely straight.



Im trying to keep this as it was from the factory. I still have much to finish on this and need photos for help.



Thank you.

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Thank you, I'll need that a little later. Mine was cut so I don't think that was correct either.



I am looking at the oil line to the gauge and it's routing currently, but I have many hurdles to jump and your picture is yet to come!
 
Tho most of my experience is with the 900/901 series tractors (I did care for an 860 many years ago), I would guess the oil pressure gauge line is common between them as are most plumbing/linkages/etc.

The 4 tractors I have under my care all have the oil line under the battery tray.

In your picture the 800 series tractor has power steering which involves a lot of other plumbing and I might venture a guess that with the PS option the oil pressure line might be re-routed to avoid becoming entangled with the PS lines.
 
Mine does not have power steering, so this is why I'm not sure how its routed.



Thank you for your input. I can see I should have read up on how to start a poll. This might start a war.



I do realize the drawing in the Dennis Carpenter catalogue shows it for an NAA. But my line did measure as theirs does. Not sure that makes it right. I believe the parts manual did not list a length for the line. I'm not at the shop now to verify.
 


Since you want it to be correct, paint your starter and generator red along with the water pump pulley. Put new plated lug nuts on her not red painted old ones. There are plenty of old Ford advertising videos on You Tube that verify this.
 
Is this because the fan blade and pulley were on the tractor when it was first shot? Mine were black, but this tractor had gone through the new blue stage. So those parts could have been replaced at that time. Thats easy enough to change.
My spacer is actually aluminum and in beautiful shape. Ive heard these are rarely usable because they desinerated. Was the blade black or red? My starter is already shot red, and the owner is requesting the system be switched to 12 volt. I still need to find a 12 volt generator possibly from a diesel?



Ill try to find some of the videos you mentioned.



Thanks for your help and advice.
 
Is this a tractor you own or found on the internet? If the 55 800 is the same, I'm going with above the battery like a few of you on here have mentioned. It also looks like the clamp on the line goes to the battery tray mount on the back of the head.

Thanks for sending this.
 
No, that is one myth that goes around. Parts were made, either by FORD or a authorized outside supplier, according to blueprint soecs and the EI data on the print specfied finish, paint, etc so a supplier would paint the part, fan blade, fan hsg, generator, starter, etc the correct specified paint color. Parts were never painted as tractor rolled down the line, maybe only as touch-ups.


Tim Daley(MI)
 
ALL FORD Tractors, '48-'62 were painted the same scheme- cast iron was Vermillion (RED) M2822 and sheet metal was Medium Grey M13243. Rear Hat Rims were zinc plated. Hardware was always as plated per BP spec, cadmium, the silver-blue, not the yellow, or zinc. GENS & STARTER MOTORS painted red at the supplier per FORD BP specs. A repair shop would often paint those black. There is a book, been around since the 1990's, Ford N-Series Originlity Guide, but there is much incorrect information in it so don't go by it. It does have some good pictures in it. Get every FORD TRACTOR book published by Randy Leffingwell and Robert Pripps -they have a lot of good, correct pix to go along with the text. Also, many original brochures and manuals haver pix too so gotta look for them. Get an exact-as-original wiring harness from Jim Guarno at AGRI-SERVICES (wiringharnesses.com) When you finish you can get repop decals from GEORGE BRADISH TRACTOR PARTS in LaTrobe PA.


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Tim Daley(MI)
 
This tractor was bought new by my father, and has been a family member ever since. I believe the oil line location to be original.
 
(quoted from post at 21:07:54 01/06/23) Is this because the fan blade and pulley were on the tractor when it was first shot? Mine were black, but this tractor had gone through the new blue stage. So those parts could have been replaced at that time. Thats easy enough to change.
My spacer is actually aluminum and in beautiful shape. Ive heard these are rarely usable because they desinerated. Was the blade black or red? My starter is already shot red, and the owner is requesting the system be switched to 12 volt. I still need to find a 12 volt generator possibly from a diesel?



Ill try to find some of the videos you mentioned.



Thanks for your help and advice.


Yes, the fan and spacer were on when it went into the paint room. Keep in mind that your tractor has likely been repainted at least twice before you got it. Obviously it would have been very difficult to paint the engine, transmission, center housing, and axle assembly with the sheet metal on it. So keeping this in mind it is apparent that it would have been very difficult also to paint around the seat, wiring, gas tank, tires and wheels, and radiator and hoses. All of these add-on parts would, as Tim stated, have come from the vendor already painted, and would have been added on after the red paint was dry. I have a Ford brochure entitled "Ford Tractors and Equipment for Landscaping" that Ford put out around 1959 featuring photos taken by Ford staff photographer A Krafcik of Ford tractors on an actual job site. These are nearly new tractors, so the colors are reliable. It is noteworthy that the control rods were zinc plated, the wiring is not painted, while the carburetor was painted red. Enjoy bringing your Ford to the level of restoration that you plan on.
 
(quoted from post at 04:45:49 01/07/23) Thank you, I'll need that a little later. Mine was cut so I don't think that was correct either.



I can not help on the oil line other than google photos. Here's a pix of the fuel line that I took off. I don't know what they were thinking when they ran it that way. If it was my tractor the correct police would just have to get over I corrected Ford's poor craftsmanship.

Pix in this post





https://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=920728&highlight=line

BTW its time to put/rebuild new o-rings in the fuel shut off. Its a boat load of work to go back to it.
 
The whole 6v - 12v decision... It looks like you are shooting for originality If so, I think 6v is the way to go. If well done, 6v, positive ground, works great on these tractors. Ours is, and starts well all year. Both the starter and generator are original (but rebuilt a few times).
 
Thanks Showcrop, I'll need to get my fan color and pulley changed. Now I'm even more curious about my aluminum fan spacer. I need to check the Ford numbers on it.
 

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