Identifying early 4000 Industrial

TractorDad3 · Nov 25, 2022

Greetings and thanks in advance for your knowledge on the subject. Reviewing an early 4000 (172D 4 cylinder) that was repainted and rebadged as an Industrial 4000. Looks to me like an 841 based on the 4-speed transmission, the round emblem and hood to match, and adjustable ag front end. As its a diesel, I imagine the serial number under the battery is gonezo, but Ill check. Any other ways to prove its a 4000?
Thank you for your time!

Steve in IL · Nov 26, 2022

Andy Wickiser posted this a while back Is this what you have?

Steve in IL · Nov 26, 2022

Rereading your original note, you mentioned adjustable front axle, so perhaps not.

Kirk-NJ · Nov 26, 2022

Model and serial number on the left side of bellhousing on flat spot above the two holes

Andy Wickiser · Nov 26, 2022

For trivia sake the early LCG 2000/4000, which are kind of in the industrial category, had adjustable front axles. Probably not applicable to the original question though.

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Lynn Patrick · Nov 26, 2022

Another style? (I know - wrong color)

TractorDad3 · Nov 26, 2022

Yes about axle but it sure matches the emblem/grille/hood I am seeing

TractorDad3 · Nov 26, 2022

This is interesting
Any idea how to measure the LCG? Identify by serial #? Is it just a tire difference?
You may have nailed it sir. Grille/hood/emblem correct

TractorDad3 · Nov 26, 2022

I sure do like these too. Found one but more expensive than this
supposed industrial version Ive come across.

TractorDad3 · Nov 26, 2022

I havent see her yet, but I know the older 8XX had issues with battery acid eating away at the serial there. Ill look for sure thank you

Sean in PA · Nov 26, 2022

(quoted from post at 16:56:17 11/26/22) This is interesting
Any idea how to measure the LCG? Identify by serial #? Is it just a tire difference?
You may have nailed it sir. Grille/hood/emblem correct

Difference is the actual height of the front spindles is shorter and they put smaller rear wheels and tires on them. The serial number won't tell you if it's an LCG, but the model number will. Model number for a 4 cylinder 4000 LCG will start with 4131, and the 4 cylinder 2000 will start with 2131. They may have made a few prior to the '63 model year, in which case they might be 4031 and 2031.

Andy Wickiser · Nov 26, 2022

Not sure of all the differences, wheel/tire size, front axle, seat, and paint job for sure. They coproduced the early 4000 industrials on the XX1 line. They had a 4000-type model number but an XX1 serial number. The model number for a pre-63 4000 LCG would be something like 4031X where X indicates transmission type and PTO/lift designation. 4 is for 4000 with 172 engine, 0 for pre-63, and 31 for LCG.
XX1 serial numbers

TractorDad3 · Nov 26, 2022

This is very helpful, thank you Mr. Wickiser! Ill see if that serial is visible where it should be

TractorDad3 · Nov 27, 2022

Thank you Sean!

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