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Ford 6610 Hydraulics

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strum456

11-24-2022 04:31:06




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Would it be advisable to run a hydraulic snow blower off the hydraulics of a 6610 with dual pumps. 18gpm would meet the specs of the blower. I am not sure if a continuous flow attachment running from the same system that is used for the dual power and the loader will cause a problem or inconvenience.




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strum456

11-26-2022 19:57:07




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to strum456, 11-24-2022 04:31:06  
I had a feeling that running the blower off of the remotes would be hard on the tractor hydraulics. Looks like I'll have to stick with the original plan of running it off of the mower setup. I appreciate the advice.



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chevytaHOE5674

11-26-2022 13:24:27




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to strum456, 11-24-2022 04:31:06  
You and the tractor will both be unhappy with the performance and longevity running that thru the remote valves...

Run it off the aux pump.



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RodinNS

11-26-2022 07:37:51




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to strum456, 11-24-2022 04:31:06  
I think I'd find another hydraulic shop for advice.....

1. Running 18.2 gpm @ 2100 through the remotes on a plessy/sundstrand/sauer/danfoss pump combo continuously will reward you with two worn out pumps, sooner than later.

2. You have a commercial pump for the tiger mower. If I could use the tiger motor with it I would so the blower had a fighting chance of being useful. Failing that I'd simply run the engine at 1/2 to 2/3 throttle if you want to limit the flow through the existing blower motor. Use 5/8 or 3/4 lines if possible.

If you use the remotes, will it work? Yeah. Slowly. It will provide you with 20-25 hp from a 70 hp tractor, and you'll have to run it wide open to get that. Blowers need power. To get power, you need big flow.
Using the tiger controls would make it a lot more versatile and powerful.

Rod

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Husker 50 8n

11-25-2022 06:54:41




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to strum456, 11-24-2022 04:31:06  
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I think I would use the same system the mower uses. That system is set up to run hydraulic motors like your snow blower needs, it just has excess capacity. It should not have any problem with overheating the oil. A flow control valve is pretty simple, not a bunch of extra lines to install. Should be just one extra line.



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Chris in SK

11-25-2022 06:27:44




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to strum456, 11-24-2022 04:31:06  
They don't do well returning that much oil continually through a remote. You might get away with it but keep a close watch on your transmission oil temperature. You may also run into issues with it slowing down if you try and use any other hydraulic function like the blower spout while its running. A hydraulic blower takes a lot of power. You may find you need to run the return back via the fill port and not a remote. If you have a big front pump, and separate hydraulic tank set up for a mower, I'd look at utilizing it. Thats probably just a basic open center system. Flow control and a few hoses and fitting would be cheap and easy to install.

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strum456

11-25-2022 05:00:23




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to strum456, 11-24-2022 04:31:06  
Since the blower will be attached to the loader, it will be necessary to make adjustments with the loader with the blower running. Does anyone foresee a problem with that?

Being a boom mower tractor, it has a lot of hydraulic parts on it. I'm wondering where would be the best place to tap in to get the best flow to the blower motor. From what I can see, the rear remotes seem to have larger hoses than the mower and loader controls. Could I just run it off of rear remotes?

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sotxbill

11-24-2022 14:53:27




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to strum456, 11-24-2022 04:31:06  
Assuming your 6610 has the transmission pump and the optional engine pump... thus mega flow hydraulics (I believe was the trade name that used the priority valve to split and share hydraulics... ) yes, you probably could use it for your snow blower. Would give it a try and see if it can deliver to a single use function. I believe.... that the megaflow was only available on the II series( 1986 and newer???) which would then give it 18.2 gpm flow rating. If you have the single pump, it was rated at 9.7 gpm and would not keep up. I am foggy on this so please verify. Somehow I thought the mega flow came out in 1981 though as an option.

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Bern

11-25-2022 07:55:29




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to sotxbill, 11-24-2022 14:53:27  
In the Ford world, the term MegaFlow was only used with the Genesis tractors. With the 10 series it was simply single pump or dual pump. Big difference between 18 GPM and 55 GPM.



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strum456

11-24-2022 15:59:03




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to sotxbill, 11-24-2022 14:53:27  
It's a Tiger Special (boom mower tractor). It has 3 hydraulic pumps that I know of. The mower runs off of a front mounted pump and puts out over 30gpm, so I am told. Apparently this is too much for a blower and would require a flow control valve which puts the excess fluid back to tank. The local hydraulic shop told me that 18 - 20 gpm would be ideal for the blower. So I'm thinking that I can avoid a lot of extra plumping and a flow control valve by using the tractor hydraulics instead.

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Sean in PA

11-24-2022 04:58:33




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to strum456, 11-24-2022 04:31:06  
The dual power is actually a separate hydraulic system that is only shared with the independent PTO. The pump in the side of the center housing is actually 2 pumps inside one housing. The larger pump is for the 3 point and whatever you might be powering via remote valves or external ports. The smaller pump is just for the dual power and PTO.

Since you ask about the the loader, I assume that it is a 3 point mounted blower then, and why would you leave the hydraulics running for a rear mounted blower when you are actually using the loader in front? Just close the remote valve that supplies the flow to the blower when you are using the loader.

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strum456

11-24-2022 07:39:00




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 Re: Ford 6610 Hydraulics in reply to Sean in PA, 11-24-2022 04:58:33  
The loader is quick attach. I would like to attach the blower to the loader.



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