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spurgon

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I bought an I&T shop manual for Ford 3000 tractors. The table of contents listed many more pages than were actually printed in the book. The missing topics were the ones I needed most right now. Anyone know why this is so? Also, where can I find a complete shop manual for the Ford 3000 series?

Spurgon
 
(quoted from post at 08:30:15 05/18/22) I bought an I&T shop manual for Ford 3000 tractors. The table of contents listed many more pages than were actually printed in the book. The missing topics were the ones I needed most right now. Anyone know why this is so? Also, where can I find a complete shop manual for the Ford 3000 series?

Spurgon
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The manual lists the chapter/units, not the page numbers. Look at the front of the paragraphs and pictures for the "numbers" of the sections. IT manuals are in my opinion a very abbreviated version of a shop manual, the barely enough info to complete a job. They assume you already have a lot of experience with the subject matter. But in most cases, if you study the manual with the parts in front of you,,,, you will eventually have the bulb light up and figure it out in most cases. However I have ford shop manuals and in some cases they are a bit brief in description till I finally get into the project.
 
When it comes to manuals, I have discovered good, better, and best. Ford factory manuals are good, other manufacturers manuals are better, and nobody holds a candle to John Deere - they do the best job bar none.

In my opinion, I&T manuals barely even rate on that scale. It's better than nothing at all, but not by a lot.
 
I have always found the factory manuals to be the best. Using them and the experienced folks in forums like this are helpful in doing repairs, tune ups, etc. They usually allow you to determine if a repair is within your own capabilities or if you should take it into a repair shop or dealer.
 
I don't get it.
I've had 3 cylinder tractors and the corresponding I&T manual for 20 years and found everything I needed to know.
I also have the big Ford manual in the 3 ring binder. Have referred to it a few times but found nothing in it that the I&T manual didn't adequately cover. And it is Much easier to use a 20 oz manual than a 5 lb book. The big book is just an ornament on my shelf.
 
I have both for my keeper tractors and refer to both. That being said, I would not be without the factory service books if I had to choose only one.
 
The I&T manual is fine for an experienced tech who only needs some exploded views and torque specs. The factory manual is a must however if I have some serious troubleshooting to do and don't wish to throw parts at a problem until it's resolved.

That said, I would admit that the older tractors don't require much head scratching, but when you get into the newer stuff, some amount of hair loss can and does occur sometimes. I would never troubleshoot an 8x30 series powershift for example with an I&T manual.
 
[i:654c4848f0]but when you get into the newer stuff, some amount of hair loss can and does occur sometimes. I would never troubleshoot an 8x30 series powershift for example with an I&T manual.[/i:654c4848f0]

I don't doubt you but he was asking about a 3000...
 
I know. My reply was meant to express my opinion of an I&T manual versus a factory manual. There's a reason why there's a big difference in the number of pages, along with a difference in the price. I'd rather have too much information rather than not enough.
 
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