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Hey Guys - We have an old 6000lb Dahmer, rough terrain, mast forklift manufactured in Canada back in the late 70's and 80's with a Ford 3 cyl diesel engine (D5NN6015F).

MODEL: LD1202-6
SERIAL: 12L2157D

We have been told by several that these forklifts are built on Ford 545 tractor chassis turned backwards. We need to replace the rear wheel hubs (front on the tractor chassis) and need to know what chassis we're dealing with.

My question, are there numbers on the chassis that will identify which one they used so we don't buy the wrong hubs?

We use this forklift in our business and can't afford to have it down to take the hub to a dealer or parts supply house unless there's no other option. Plus, we would like to know what chassis for future parts purchases.

Any insight would be helpful! Thanks in advance for your help.

Oh, had this number and tried calling several times yesterday, just rang and rang with no answer:
Dahmer Forklift, Ontario, Canada 519-669-1697

Also, did find the other SINGLE post about Warner Swasey..... I am worried about responses.

This post was edited by wblack on 04/23/2022 at 04:23 am.
 
Probably looks similar to the one at link below.

Original poster: look for a set of numbers/codes stamped on a flat spot on the bell housing to the rear of the starter, that's where Ford put their model, serial number, and production date codes.
Dahmer LD1202 6
 

Yes! That's it. I cannot figure out how to convert an .img file and get it to load, but that is the forklift, thank you.
 
I think it is actually "D"5-NN-7006 N

This post was edited by wblack on 04/23/2022 at 07:29 am.
 
Those aren't the good numbers, they are
casting codes. D5NN6015F is the engine
casting code. D means block was designed
in the 70s, 5 means 1975, NN means block
was for tractor use, and F is the
revision. Engine is probably a 3 cylinder
201 cid.

Find the starter, look where it bolts into
the bell housing, then look for a bell
housing flat spot with stamped codes. May
involve wiping off caked grease-dirt, a
flashlight, an inspection mirror, and a
stiff neck depending on what's in the way.
 
7M30 is probably the transmission date
code meaning 1977 December 30. I think
you're pretty close guessing 545, but
based on the dates it might be it's
predessesor the 535. Try looking at the
535 parts breakdown and see what you
think.
Messicks Ford 535
 
BC22C is kind of in the format of a Ford
model code, but should be 6 digits not 5.
BC2 would be the model, but is not listed
as a standard Ford model in the reference
that I have (thanks Sean in PA). Maybe
Ford did things differently for specialty
orders. Perhaps someone else knows.

You'll probably have to persist in trying
to talk to Dahmer.
 
(quoted from post at 11:15:23 04/23/22) BC22C is kind of in the format of a Ford
model code, but should be 6 digits not 5.
BC2 would be the model, but is not listed
as a standard Ford model in the reference
that I have (thanks Sean in PA). Maybe
Ford did things differently for specialty
orders. Perhaps someone else knows.

You'll probably have to persist in trying
to talk to Dahmer.
Click to expand...

Looks like there might be a 0 at the end, but it's vague. Are there major differences between the 535 and 545. Seems like these hubs would have been made for a lot of tractors.

Thanks for your help Andy, it's been really kind of you!
 
Looking at the photos that are on the link Andy provided, the front axle appears to resemble the 550 TLB.
Without more info, that's a WAG
 
It seems Warner Swasey sold rough terrain
forklifts with the same or similar model
numbers to yours (comarketed?). There was
a thread on another board about a model
with a slightly different model number
(LD1201-6) and it had a Ford ID sticker.
The base tractor was a 420. I can't post a link to the thread because this site disallows links to other tractor boards. Anyway I borrowed an image of the ID tag (forgive me whoever originally posted it). Maybe there's a similar tag on yours, this one was on the engine valve cover.

<img SRC=https://i.postimg.cc/jj6vvc2B/Warner-Swasey-LD1201-6.jpg>
 
(quoted from post at 16:01:53 04/23/22) It seems Warner Swasey sold rough terrain
forklifts with the same or similar model
numbers to yours (comarketed?). There was
a thread on another board about a model
with a slightly different model number
(LD1201-6) and it had a Ford ID sticker.
The base tractor was a 420. I can't post a link to the thread because this site disallows links to other tractor boards. Anyway I borrowed an image of the ID tag (forgive me whoever originally posted it). Maybe there's a similar tag on yours, this one was on the engine valve cover.

&lt;img SRC=https://i.postimg.cc/jj6vvc2B/Warner-Swasey-LD1201-6.jpg&gt;
Click to expand...

Yes! We have the same tag, unfortunately not in as good of shape. Below are the numbers we can make out:

TRACTOR NUMBER: C57307 (LAST DIGIT LOOKS LIKE) 6
MODEL:KD21 (LAST TWO DIGITS LOOK LIKE) 0K
UNIT: (LAST THREE DIGITS) 25B
ENGINE: (FIRST FOUR DIGITS) 8D31
TRANSMISSION: 8C22C
REAR AXLE: 8B070
 
You hit the jackpot, those are the numbers
I was looking for.

KD2 is a Ford 420, 1 is diesel engine, 183
CID, K is 6X4 manual reversing
transmission, the 5th digit is probably a
1 which means no PTO

C573076 is a 1978 serial number and C
means made in the USA.

Below is a link to the parts diagrams
Messicks Ford 420
 

LOLOLOL, Whoo Hooooo! Thank you Andy and the rest for responding. This has worried the crap out of me.

What a relief. Hope you guys have a great rest of your Sunday!
 
(quoted from post at 06:45:49 04/24/22) You hit the jackpot, those are the numbers
I was looking for.

KD2 is a Ford 420, 1 is diesel engine, 183
CID, K is 6X4 manual reversing
transmission, the 5th digit is probably a
1 which means no PTO

C573076 is a 1978 serial number and C
means made in the USA.

Below is a link to the parts diagrams
Messicks Ford 420
Click to expand...

Hey Andy - We've hit another snag with this forklift. The parts diagram shows a different steering system than what we have. Ours has a cylinder for each front wheel, the diagram is showing one cylinder on one side. I am sure Dahmer used whatever they could get their hands on from Ford, but we're striking out with rod ends for the two cylinders. Any ideas? Maybe a later model steering system?? Here's a couple pictures of what we have. Obviously one cylinder looks original and has the number C23542 A1 650
mvphoto93317.jpg


mvphoto93318.jpg
 
(quoted from post at 02:34:27 06/16/22)
(quoted from post at 06:45:49 04/24/22) You hit the jackpot, those are the numbers
I was looking for.

KD2 is a Ford 420, 1 is diesel engine, 183
CID, K is 6X4 manual reversing
transmission, the 5th digit is probably a
1 which means no PTO

C573076 is a 1978 serial number and C
means made in the USA.

Below is a link to the parts diagrams
Messicks Ford 420
Click to expand...

Hey Andy - We've hit another snag with this forklift. The parts diagram shows a different steering system than what we have. Ours has a cylinder for each front wheel, the diagram is showing one cylinder on one side. I am sure Dahmer used whatever they could get their hands on from Ford, but we're striking out with rod ends for the two cylinders. Any ideas? Maybe a later model steering system?? Here's a couple pictures of what we have. Obviously one cylinder looks original and has the number C23542 A1 650
mvphoto93317.jpg


mvphoto93318.jpg
Click to expand...

I think I am understanding now we need rod ends for the "Power Assist Cylinder(s)" and they appear to be readily available online, I just can't find a part number or match the dimensions of the ends we currently have.
 

Hey Check! We found the parts, they are the Ford 550 "power assist", I think is the right term. Dahmer used parts apparently from many different Ford Tractors.

Not sure how to load a .pdf or I would share the parts diagram.

Thanks for getting back to me. I am sure I'll be back!
 
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