Commander 6000 advert

Brian-S · Apr 6, 2022

Someone tell me its a bad idea to buy this!

The ad reads:

Ford Commander 6000 (1965)
3.7 L Gas
Had it running last summer.
10 speed hydraulic transmission needs a tune up , tractor moves under its own power but can be finicky
Nice little project tractor for the right person
Have owners manual and service manual .
$1500.00 CAN ($1000 US)

Dieseltech · Apr 6, 2022

I had one like that years ago, would have kept it if diesel. That thing was a pig on gas, so it went bye-bye.

Brian-S · Apr 6, 2022

(quoted from post at 10:31:19 04/06/22) I had one like that years ago, would have kept it if diesel. That thing was a pig on gas, so it went bye-bye.

Good point! With gas hitting 4.50 a gallon here its something to consider. That said this would be my acreage show tractor so fuel costs may not be so bad for me.

ThadS · Apr 6, 2022

You're asking in the wrong place if you were hoping for a no. The left side rubber doesn't look to bad. Fuel line routing is interesting. Needs a battery so you are adding 10% instantly. If I could use it and have time to tinker with it, I would have a hard time saying no. But I also like the looks of the 6000.

Brian-S · Apr 6, 2022

(quoted from post at 11:00:28 04/06/22) If I could use it and have time to tinker with it, I would have a hard time saying no.

I guess thats a question - what are these like to tinker with? The motor should be no problem but what about that transmission: would I need a shop full of special tools?

Bern · Apr 6, 2022

That would be a fair price if it was a diesel. The gas part would be the deal-killer for me.

Bern · Apr 6, 2022

The transmission really only needs one special tool that would be hard to duplicate without a lathe. Trust me, I've tried.

Brian-S · Apr 6, 2022

(quoted from post at 12:06:18 04/06/22) That would be a fair price if it was a diesel. The gas part would be the deal-killer for me.

Im actually partial to gassers but Ive just learned that it doesnt have a 3pnt hitch: bit of deal breaker I think.

This post was edited by Brian-S on 04/06/2022 at 11:32 am.

Bern · Apr 6, 2022

I have most of the pieces for a 3-point assembly if you're interested. I was just getting ready to toss them in the scrap bin. Unless you live on the west coast, however, freight could make the idea prohibitively expensive.

Lynn Patrick · Apr 7, 2022

Please don't tell me where it is, because if it's anywhere near I'll beat you to it!

Steve in IL · Apr 7, 2022

Wow! I would have never thought Ford would have made what looks to be a true bareback (no provisions for a 3 point). Learned something today!

Vito · Apr 7, 2022

Gad models are fairly rare.

Vito

kscessnadriver · Apr 7, 2022

(quoted from post at 18:59:12 04/07/22) Gad models are fairly rare.

Vito

There was one that sold last weekend in Northern Ohio for around 3K, a gas 6000 (non-Commander model). And it looked fairly rough from the pictures.

Tom in Mo. · Apr 7, 2022

I would have it on the trailer already. The SOS issue might not be anything a little tinkering couldn't fix. Being gas wouldn't matter for a toy. If it was a worker bee then it would need to be diesel. the rear tires look good.

showcrop · Apr 8, 2022

Two years ago that would have been scrap. Now everybody wants one.

Bern · Apr 8, 2022

I'm getting the same sense. I wonder why that is?

Brian-S · Apr 9, 2022

I'm still thinking about this tractor.

Some questions:

1) Is the 3pnt system on the 6000 Commander the same as the 6000? I've found a couple of 6000s (non-Commander) in a local tractor salvage yard.

2) I've been looking at a lot of 6000 Commander photos and there seems to be variations in rear axle housing lengths. Or is the just an optical illusion caused by camera angles etc. The tractor I'm looking at has wider rear tires than I see on most yet the rims are set for a narrower track - how does that work?

3) I know the motor is not part of the chassis but can the transmission also be pulled without splitting the tractor?

Thanks

showcrop · Apr 10, 2022

(quoted from post at 16:21:33 04/09/22)
I'm still thinking about this tractor.

Some questions:

1) Is the 3pnt system on the 6000 Commander the same as the 6000? I've found a couple of 6000s (non-Commander) in a local tractor salvage yard.

2) I've been looking at a lot of 6000 Commander photos and there seems to be variations in rear axle housing lengths. Or is the just an optical illusion caused by camera angles etc. The tractor I'm looking at has wider rear tires than I see on most yet the rims are set for a narrower track - how does that work?

3) I know the motor is not part of the chassis but can the transmission also be pulled without splitting the tractor?

Thanks

Brian, if you are planning a degree of restoration you should try for a 6000 using parts from a Commander if possible, due to the fact that a 6000 has far greater restored value than a Commander.

Bern · Apr 10, 2022

Why do you think a Commander has less value than an older one? There's not much difference between the two. Besides, the Commander is far better looking because it doesn't have that '58 Edsel-inspired front casting.

Bern · Apr 10, 2022

1) I believe they are the same. The parts book should be able to confirm that.

2) Same answer as above.

3) The image below should answer this question.

showcrop · Apr 10, 2022

(quoted from post at 08:53:31 04/10/22) Why do you think a Commander has less value than an older one? There's not much difference between the two. Besides, the Commander is far better looking because it doesn't have that '58 Edsel-inspired front casting.

Bern you tell me why everybody seems to want one and I will tell you why the original ones appear to usually bring more money. Myself, I would like to have one because of the unusual factor even though to me they are equally ugly.

Brian-S · Apr 10, 2022

(quoted from post at 05:34:35 04/10/22)
Brian, if you are planning a degree of restoration you should try for a 6000 using parts from a Commander if possible, due to the fact that a 6000 has far greater restored value than a Commander.

(quoted from post at 09:53:31 04/10/22) Why do you think a Commander has less value than an older one? There's not much difference between the two. Besides, the Commander is far better looking because it doesn't have that '58 Edsel-inspired front casting.

(quoted from post at 11:30:26 04/10/22)
Bern you tell me why everybody seems to want one and I will tell you why the original ones appear to usually bring more money. Myself, I would like to have one because of the unusual factor even though to me they are equally ugly.

Interestingly, just this weekend an early 6000 diesel popped up locally. It's a non-runner, complete, but in significantly worse shape than the Commander I'm looking at. The asking price of CAN$5500 supports "showgrops" assertion that the earlier 6000s are considered more valuable. That said I'm with "bern" on the looks - the Commander is solid '60s kitsch while I find the original 6000s a bit over-done. I've never had any luck buying stuff like tractors for their investment value so it's important that I personally like the thing 'cause I'm likely going to be stuck with it.

This post was edited by Brian-S on 04/10/2022 at 12:50 pm.

Brian-S · Apr 10, 2022

(quoted from post at 09:59:27 04/10/22) 1) I believe they are the same. The parts book should be able to confirm that.

2) Same answer as above.

3) The image below should answer this question.
<img src=https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto122691.jpg>

Thanks Bern! That photo is a big help.

Bern · Apr 10, 2022

You bet. I have more like that to share if you'd like, as I went completely through my Commander a few years ago.

An interesting thing about the tractor I bought....the guy I bought it from parked it because he was convinced it had transmission issues. As
it turned out, the transmission was the only area on that tractor that I did NOT go through. It works perfect! Turns out the problem was in
the final drives.

I pulled the trans, looked at the oil as well as the input shaft, and took a peek inside the top cover and declared it to be fine. Having the
engine and trans out made it much easier for me to work on the rear axle and final drives.

Brian-S · Apr 10, 2022

That's interesting Bern. I'm usually not that lucky!

Another helpful photo - I do like the way they come apart.

This post was edited by Brian-S on 04/10/2022 at 09:26 pm.

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