Worried about sounds behind oil pan

allenlane · Mar 29, 2022

Took the 8N (it's a 64 2000, but really just the phase out of the 8N, not the real 2000) out this morning and we were dragging a leaf rake, not much work at all, and was hearing an intermittent scraping sound coming from bottom of tractor. Somewhere between me and the oil pan. It would come and go randomly, that is not due to a load, but only happened when tractor was moving. Does that sound familiar to anyone?

PS I also posted this in the 8N forum, since this tractor is sort of a hybrid. Hoping you fellas that own or have owned one have experienced something similar.

strum456 · Mar 29, 2022

Could it be the radius rods? They can do
what you're describing.

old · Mar 29, 2022

So which is it?? A 8N or a 2000?? Only part I know that can be used on both are spark plugs and plug wires. Engine as far as I know cannot be swapped with out a lot of machine work etc.

allenlane · Mar 29, 2022

(quoted from post at 18:27:08 03/29/22) So which is it?? A 8N or a 2000?? Only part I know that can be used on both are spark plugs and plug wires. Engine as far as I know cannot be swapped with out a lot of machine work etc.

I'm no expert. My dad gave me this old tractor. When I researched the serial number/frame ID this was the last year of the old 8N style tractor. My dad actually thought is was a jubilee when he bought it. Ford apparently, in an effort to match competitors modern features made some mostly optical changes, and rebranded the 8N as a 2000, as the new 2000 tractor wasn't quite ready and came out the next year. The old tractor stars/run fine so hoping this is not something serious. I'm going to check the radius rods (per the earlier post).

old · Mar 29, 2022

8N was made from 1948 to 1952 and had a flat head 4 cylinder engine. Then in 1953 the Jubilee came out then in 54 the NAA. both almost the same tractor and had valve in head engines. Then in 55 the 600/800 series came out and ran till 57. In 58 the 601/801 came out and ran till 1962. In 63 the 2000/4000 came out. So what type of engine does it have?? The 8N the serial number is on the side of the block just under the head mid point. The others the numbers are just aft of the starter below the battery box and those have the model number above the serial number. Every tractor after the 8N was valve in head type engine

sotxbill · Mar 29, 2022

You will need to clarify... 8n is nowhere close to a 2000. But one could argue the 1953 jubilee is just an early version of the 2000.... a bit of stretch but Ford history books claim the '53 to '64 as the Jubilee series tractors.. . But... the pivot pin on the front axle can wear and push the radiator over a bit and the fan blade will hit the shroud. Not uncommon on all of the above tractors. radius rods wear can let the axle come back too far and also move the radiator.. again, not unusual.

Tom in Mo. · Mar 30, 2022

Allen, look at this link and be sure to read and scroll. It will tell you what you have. Also, the numbers on the transmission flat will tell you more.
https://fordtractorcollectors.com/i...ter.?msclkid=481da687b01a11ec84312b74ca853d37

(hope this works)

allenlane · Mar 30, 2022

(quoted from post at 04:15:25 03/30/22) Allen, look at this link and be sure to read and scroll. It will tell you what you have. Also, the numbers on the transmission flat will tell you more.
https://fordtractorcollectors.com/i...ter.?msclkid=481da687b01a11ec84312b74ca853d37

(hope this works)

Thanks Tom, excellent resource. It is a 64 2000. Some folks call it a Prior 2000 or a 1st Gen 2000, as there were some significant changes in the 65-75 2000. Attempting to post a photo below.

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sotxbill · Mar 30, 2022

Great picture... and you have the 5 speed. Might have a live pto also? Way better than a 8n!! enjoy your tractor!!

allenlane · Mar 30, 2022

(reply to post at 07:25:54 03/30/22) [/quteo]

Thanks Bill. I too originate from SoTx (George West). Yes it does have live PTO, and yes it is way better than the 8N. My other vintage tractor is a 45 2N which I love for what it is. It starts every time and idles at 500 RPM's as smooth as silk. It tickles me every time I start it to think that a 75 yr old machine runs so good. I find it hard to find a use however for the 3 pt/pto system. It was awesome 75 yrs ago !!

Anyway, for some reason I dis-remembered (thanks Bush) that Ford switched to the overhead valve engine with the NAA-Jubilee. I recalled incorrectly that it was with the 8N, so was thinking the 1st gen 2000 was the last of the 8N series. It wasn't.

Now back to my scraping sound. It's too wet today to get out, but so far input is that it might be the radius rods, or something broken off in the bellhousing??

Tom in Mo. · Mar 30, 2022

Lots of things could make a scraping sound. If the radius rods get loose in their pocket they could clunk some. Front wheel bearing going bad. Dry/squeeky axle pivot pin. Fan blade nipping the shroud. Sheet metal rattle. Fuel tank loose and rubbing something. Keep staring at it and you will find it.

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