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3 cyl Ford 4000 Diesel, 1974

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Jon Bottum

01-14-2022 16:10:17

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I'm looking for information concerning this tractor. I am totally clueless about these older Fords. My friend owns this tractor and is looking for a loader. My questions are, is this tractor built heavy enough for a loader? Should it have a front hydraulic pump? Are there any used loaders in existance or is he looking for a needle in a haystack? It would be used for home owner use only and not for farming. It is a standard transmission, not a SOS. Thanks in advance for any help. Jon.

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01-16-2022 08:30:15

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 Re: 3 cyl Ford 4000 Diesel, 1974 in reply to Jon Bottum, 01-14-2022 16:10:17  
I am an older tractor Ford brand user as they just work the way I want tractors of that vintage to work for me. Probably have a dozen over the years and currently have a 3000 and 3910 in the corral.

I do not have a loader on any Ford as I don't like the type of loader to tractor attachmnent mechanism Ford used over the years. Its too much net weight on the front tires/axle and the structure severely limits your access to the engine compartment for normal servicing and maintenance. I bought an old 4 cylinder 4000 years ago that had an inverted front axle that had an obvious weld at the pivot point where the PO had broken the axle overloading his loader.
The loader was powered by a hydraulic pump attached to the front of the crankshaft. The hydraulic fluid was contained in the Piping of the loader. It was just one big piece of gobbledegook. Later models used the tractor's hydraulic supply but still had sheet metal in the way of the engine and the weight. Thats my opinion.

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Destroked 450

01-15-2022 15:30:27

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 Re: 3 cyl Ford 4000 Diesel, 1974 in reply to Jon Bottum, 01-14-2022 16:10:17  
True but I'm seeing a lot of SU's referred to as standard 4000's on FB

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Sean in PA

01-15-2022 14:11:32

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 Re: 3 cyl Ford 4000 Diesel, 1974 in reply to Jon Bottum, 01-14-2022 16:10:17  
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Unless someone specifies otherwise, most of us assume that it is a standard ag chassis 4000. None of his questions had answers that would vary depending on which model within the 4000 series it is, except that I don't think that a front mount pump can work on a row crop.

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Destroked 450

01-15-2022 12:43:46

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 Re: 3 cyl Ford 4000 Diesel, 1974 in reply to Jon Bottum, 01-14-2022 16:10:17  
Since ford made 3 different models of the 4000 one needs to know exactly what he has as they would each take different mounts in install a loader

4000 all purpose is the standard 4000 with heavy duty straight front axle

4000SU or special utility has the sweep back axle of a 2/3000

4200 aka 4000 row crop flat deck model has a longer front bolster

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01-15-2022 08:23:39

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 Re: 3 cyl Ford 4000 Diesel, 1974 in reply to Jon Bottum, 01-14-2022 16:10:17  
Mine is a 1977 2600 diesel and it has a Bushhog loader with one of the aluminum blocks (HV5902) to tap into the tractor's hydraulic system. It is easily removeable which is a big thing for me as it's pretty cumbersome to do a lot of things with a loader on it.

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Sean in PA

01-15-2022 06:40:10

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 Re: 3 cyl Ford 4000 Diesel, 1974 in reply to Jon Bottum, 01-14-2022 16:10:17  
I run a Freeman loader (not sure of the model) on my '73 4000. I power it from the 3 point hydraulics via a HV5902 hydraulic adapter plate. It is a bit slow, but fine for home use. If I was making money with it or even doing much more around my property than I use it for now then I would probably get a front mount pump. It has plenty of lifting power. With a heavy duty Woods rotary mower (probably 300+ lbs.) on the 3 point with another 200 lbs. of weight on top, it can lift well over 1500 lbs. in a single bucket full. At that point the rear wheels gets light, so it could probably lift even more if I had more weight on the back. The front spindles are much heavier duty than even the 3400, which was designed as a loader tractor. Tell him to keep the front spindles full of grease and they should be fine

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01-15-2022 04:43:00

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 Re: 3 cyl Ford 4000 Diesel, 1974 in reply to Jon Bottum, 01-14-2022 16:10:17  
Since the same basic design was used from '65 all the way through the end of Ford tractor production (4000, 4600, 4610, 4630), there have been many loaders made to fit the 4000. I have a Westendorf TA-26 on my 4600, run off the tractor's hydraulic system. A front pump would make it faster, but for the stated purpose, the tractor's system should be adequate. He will need a two-spool remote valve on the tractor, or a pair of valves on the loader that the remote can feed.
It's well worth the cost to get a quick-attach loader... the tractor is so much handier and easier to steer without it, when it isn't being used.
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This post was edited by Fordfarmer on 01/15/2022 at 12:34 pm.

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