Ford 3000 diesel help!

JonnyL

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Hello, Im new here and am hoping for some advice :)
About a month ago I happened upon a Ford 3000 diesel (and 7 implements) that an elderly gentleman in our area wanted to part with. He had owned it for about 20 years and then moved to a smaller property. He got a lot of good use out of it and stated it started to not run right so he quit using it. He then parked it and didnt use it at all for about 4 years (with a near full tank of diesel fuel) It obviously wouldnt start when we hauled it home.
Here is what I have done thus far:
1. New fuel tank, valve and screen (old one was full of rust flakes, etc
2. New fuel filters
3. New injector lift pump (old one wasnt pumping fuel to injectors
4. New injectors
5. Cleaned injector lines
6. Cleaned oil bath filter (changed oil)
7. New exhaust manifold, muffler
8. Replaced all fluids and coolant

At this point the tractor will run (with the help of a shot of ether). Ones its warm it will start without the ether. However, it blows a constant heavy stream of white smoke (smells like fuel) and runs quite rough. I was advised to hold an infrared therm on the side of the manifold and find that cylinder #1 is quit a bit cooler than 2-3 (if this indicates anything). Can anyone offer advice as to what might be going on at this point? I would greatly appreciate any advice! Thank you
 
Was inj pump oil replenished after changing transfer pump???? Sounds like have sticking pump plungers witch is proably why it was parked in first place.
 
Im not sure I understand. I have to add oil to a new CAV injector pump? The new pump IS pumping plenty of fuel to the injectors (the old one wasnt)
Thanks
 

They switched injection pumps back and forth during production. Early and late tractors had the CAV DPA pump and Simms inline (I think SPE3) was used in between, roughly described. The pumps also varies between production plants and chassies types, to some extent.

I think
"3. New injector lift pump (old one wasnt pumping fuel to injectors"
should be interpreted as:
"3. New injection pump (old one wasnt pumping fuel to injectors"?
 
I have the original Pump, which was a CAV. I also have the second one (this is the 3rd). I got the exact
same pump, so Im pretty confident its the correct one. Does it sound like a fuel delivery issue or
possibly compression related???
 
(quoted from post at 18:26:20 07/28/21) Actually a 3000 can use either. Early ones had the Simms, later ones had the CAVs.

They changed back and forth a few times during the production run. The parts site claims the following dates for the two pumps:

CAV - 65/12-65 & 9-69 & 1-71/

SIMMS - 1-66/8-69 & 9-69 & 1-70/12-70

Which translates to the following:

1/1/65-12/31/65 - CAV

1/1/66-8/31/69 - SIMMS

9/1/69-9/30/69 - CAV

10/1/69-12/31/69 - Nothing listed

1/1/70-12/31/70 - SIMMS

1/1/71-end of production run - CAV

It's odd that they don't list either for the last 3 months of 1969. One possibility is that they couldn't make any diesel 3000's during that time because they were waiting on the SIMMS pumps to arrive. Another is that someone screwed up he record keeping. But if it was a screw-up in the record keeping, then it's been there for a long time, as my PDF of the parts drawings book that was published in the early 90's lists the same dates.
 

I have 2 parts books, one is a 90 production (brother has it at this time), the other is a 72 production.
It shows info very much like you listed except the CAV pump being used 9-69/12-69 on US models only while Basildon and Antwerp model continued to use the Sims pump until 12/70
 
I drove the tractor around yesterday. Upon start up it blows ALOT of white smoke for a couple minutes. It then changes to a steady stream of grayish/blueish smoke. Does anyone have any idea whats going on with it? Thank you
 
Check to see if it has a thermostart installed in the intake manifold. If it malfunctions it can dump raw fuel into the intake manifold constantly. If not, the next step would be a compression test.
 
Gary,
Thank you very much for replying. I dont think it has a thermostat. But would that account for the rough running?
A friend stuck his HF diesel compression gauges on it the other day. We got about 290 on each cylinder. We turned it over with the key for about 10 sec with the gauge on each cylinder. They were all about the same.
Im not sure how exact these things can be since they have about 6-8 of rubber hose from the injector point to the gauge. Wouldnt that affect the reading somewhat? Does that help at all?
Im leaning towards compression related problems but I just dont want to,waste,time and money guessing.
I can send a video of it starting and running to anyones email. Thank again!
 

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