Ford 555 what type of trans and fluid fluid

I have the forward and reverse lever on the left of the steering wheel and a 4 speed

The pics and description in the manual leads me to believe this is a power reversing transmission

The manual says Ford M2C41-A fluid and a capacity of 18 L
What is recommended to run ?

I read it was a good idea to dump some in the torque converter before i install the engine so nothing runs dry during startup

should i drain all the fluid and change the filter ? I dont know what fluid is in there and I dont know if mixing is bad

Any advice is appreciated [/u]

Ford/New Holland 134 is the current spec. Any premium tractor hydraulic fluid should be just fine. Make sure it says on the can that it meets or exceeds Ford 134 specs.

Filling the TC half way first certainly won't hurt, but it's not mandatory. The charge pump will fill it right after it starts.

Is there hydraulic fluid throughout the entire transmission or is there transmission fluid around the gears and hydraulic fluid separate running the torque converter ?

Where do i check for fluid level ?

Is the same Ford Newholland 134 used in the front hydraulic tank that runs all the hydraulic rams ?

What is the best additive for the rad fluid to prevent cavitation corrosion ?

Any opinions on engine oil ? Rotella T6 synthetic ?

Is there hydraulic fluid throughout the entire transmission? Yes.

Where do i check for fluid level ? Dip stick accessed through floorboard.

Is the same Ford Newholland 134 used in the front hydraulic tank that runs all the hydraulic rams ? Yes.

What is the best additive for the rad fluid to prevent cavitation corrosion ? Pencool (Nalcool), Motorcraft FW-16, or equivalent.

Any opinions on engine oil ? Rotella T6 synthetic ? Use a quality conventional to seat rings than switch to synthetic. I use Schaeffer.

thanks

The only oil I could find is Shell Spirax S4 TXM

Says on the side (Superseded Ford M2C-134 A-D)

Looks like the front hydraulic tank for the implements is going to take more then the 5gal (18.9L) bucket so i bought 2

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The only oil I could find is Shell Spirax S4 TXM

Says on the side (Superseded Ford M2C-134 A-D)

Looks like the front hydraulic tank for the implements is going to take more then the 5gal (18.9L) bucket so i bought 2

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That will work fine for hydraulic oil, but not for transmission fluid. Shell says "it's ideally suited". You need to use a transmission fluid that says it "meets or exceeds" M2C134D specs. Valvoline 813W used to have the magic language but now I see it says "recommended for", not meets or exceeds. Maybe it's missing an additive it used to have. Pretty sad at $100/5gal.

Most oil manufacturers have Product Info sheets or Technical Data sheets (along the lines of the Safety Data Sheets) that often give more info than container labels.

Here is a link to the current 813 Product information sheet on the Valvoline site for the 813 series: https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...2d889bd3/e6e6eaa5-0cbd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1

Here is a link to the technical sheet, on the Shell site, for Shell Spirax S4 TXM: https://www.shell-livedocs.com/data/published/en-CA/7000d776-fcef-4af3-b626-d43518debb9b.pdf

Just passing the info on for your use, not making a recommendation.

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The only oil I could find is Shell Spirax S4 TXM

Says on the side (Superseded Ford M2C-134 A-D)

Looks like the front hydraulic tank for the implements is going to take more then the 5gal (18.9L) bucket so i bought 2

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That will work fine for hydraulic oil, but not for transmission fluid. Shell says "it's ideally suited". You need to use a transmission fluid that says it "meets or exceeds" M2C134D specs. Valvoline 813W used to have the magic language but now I see it says "recommended for", not meets or exceeds. Maybe it's missing an additive it used to have. Pretty sad at $100/5gal.

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Is the m2c41-a spec correct in the owners manual?? OR, are you looking in the wrong spot. Just about anything you can buy will exceed the m2c41-a tractor hydraulic fluid spec. Its a very basic autotrans fluid. I would assume a 555 would require a better oil especially in the hydraulic 3pt area where 134 oils were usually called for due to increase pressures and heat. Could be the torque trans required less?? At any point be sure what you use meets or exceeds the original specs for that application and compartment. For instance a j20 spec fluid will be cheaper and far exceed that spec.

This is silly

Thanks for the links Jim.ME

The Shell has case new holland M2C-134 A-D listed under the Specifications, Approvals & Reccomendations section on the spec sheet and says superseded M2C-134 A-D on the side of the bucket. From what I gather this is deceptive language as it doesnt specifically say Meets or exceeds

The Valvoline spec sheet says:

Meets or exceeds the following specifications
New Holland Group(Ford New Holland) FNHA-2-C-201.00(134D)

If that 134D at the end is the 134 were looking for then this oil is correct ?

Sotxbill:

In specifications of the power reversing transmission section in my manual it says:

Lubricant
Type ..........Ford M2C41-A
Capacity ....36.5 U.S. Pts

From everything i have gathered to this point the Valvoline Unitrac Fluid is the most correct

I use Cam2 Pro Max J20C from Rural King
No issues with it and cost around $40 per 5 gallons

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Thanks for the links Jim.ME

The Shell has case new holland M2C-134 A-D listed under the Specifications, Approvals & Reccomendations section on the spec sheet and says superseded M2C-134 A-D on the side of the bucket. From what I gather this is deceptive language as it doesnt specifically say Meets or exceeds

The Valvoline spec sheet says:

Meets or exceeds the following specifications
New Holland Group(Ford New Holland) FNHA-2-C-201.00(134D)

If that 134D at the end is the 134 were looking for then this oil is correct ?

Sotxbill:

In specifications of the power reversing transmission section in my manual it says:

Lubricant
Type ..........Ford M2C41-A
Capacity ....36.5 U.S. Pts

From everything i have gathered to this point the Valvoline Unitrac Fluid is the most correct

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Ford 41 (M2C41) was superseded by M2C134A, until it became M2C134D. 134D is what it's commonly referred to today. There's a lot of good oil out there, but it's hard to find one that meets 134D spec, primarily because modern tractors don't need to. I was glad to see that 813W Unitrac still does.

The easiest way to start an argument on any tractor forum is to ask a question about oil. Some guys recommend the most expensive and others the cheapest. I choose to use an oil that meets spec because I'm not getting younger and hope it will extend my TBO and because hard parts are more expensive. It's a personal choice. From my experience and others I have great respect for, you won't go wrong with the Unitrac.

Semantics in play as I see it. Heading = Specifications, Approvals & Recommendations. Couldn't that mean it meets the M2C-134 A-D specs since that spec is listed under the heading?

In the Shell list, they list and define several applications as recommended or suitable for a given manufacturer's spec. Most lines, like the "Case New Holland MAT-325, M2C-134 A-D, FNHA-2-D.201.00, listing just giving the manufacturer's specifications numbers. I interpret that as it matches/meets the specification(s) shown for that manufacturer, or it would read like the recommended or suitable ones in that list.

Maybe not as clear as some, but deceptive? Not the way I read it. Not saying you are wrong, just saying it can be read and interpreted differently.

I don't trust Valvoline Unitrac, we had a bad experience with it back in the 90's on a Ford A62 wheel loader, unless it's changed it had a 30w base oil but the cross over said it would work in place of 134 that has a 20w base.
Nearly burn the transmission out, when I drained it and pulled the suction screen it was full of black charcoal pieces of burn oil, took 2-3 flushings to get it cleaned out and working properly again

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I don't trust Valvoline Unitrac, we had a bad experience with it back in the 90's on a Ford A62 wheel loader, unless it's changed it had a 30w base oil but the cross over said it would work in place of 134 that has a 20w base.
Nearly burn the transmission out, when I drained it and pulled the suction screen it was full of black charcoal pieces of burn oil, took 2-3 flushings to get it cleaned out and working properly again

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134 has always been 30+ wt (32-33) to my knowledge. I've never heard of a 20wt 134. I thought the A62 loaders had an Allison transmission which would have used Dextron or a 10wt tranny fluid. I remember an A62 or 64 that the county road crew owned. The axles were leaking and they asked the shop for a price to reseal them. The price was more than they wanted to spend. About a year later they came in to buy parts and were crowing about how the leaks had stopped, implying that they'd sealed up themselves. I was puzzled but didn't say anything. Another year went by and one day they came in and asked how much it would cost to rebuild both axles. When they heard $20K, they said they weren't going to repair it. It never dawned on me they'd run the axles dry until they asked for a quote to rebuild the axles. I always thought the more it leaks the more often you check and refill it, but to some, buying new is the definition of maintenance.

Ok, so it specs out m2c41a... that means...

that you can you the old type f auto trans fluid or m2c41a... or you can you the newer m2c43 fluids or you can you the even newer m2c134, or you can use the even newer m2c134a or the even newer m2c134b, or c or d or all the way up to the G oil.

The newer fluids are better and will replace the older fluids. HOWEVER... the G fluid is a mostly synthetic fluid required for the very new tractors and cost a lot more money. These fluids are designed for the higher heat and pressures of newer tractors.

SO.... yes I could say your tractor specs m2c134G ambra... but that would be a lie. Your tractor specs m2c41a or better.

So any fluid that meets or exceeds the m2c41a will work fine. Tractor supply sells the j20a fluids for $26 on sale and $36 normal pricing. This fluid will meet all the way up to m2c134d specifications and hugely exceed the original specifications for your tractor. You dont need to buy the more expensive fluids for the newer tractors with the 24 speed transmissions. So shop accordingly for your best buy on fluids. If you have a lot of newer tractors after '86, it may be easier to just stock the more expensive fluids. And again if you have 2ns,9ns,8ns, you will need to stock older 90wt fluids.