720 Loader Installation onto 1964 Ford 4000

What am I missing to install this 720 loader onto this '64 4000?

Or will it only fit onto 4000 industrials?

Thanks for your help!!

Ben K.
St. Louis, Mo


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You might want to make sure your front axle pin and bushing are good before mounting, loaders are hard on that axle type. You need the driveshaft and coupler that bolts to the front crank pulley. Are rear mounts part of loader frame or are they pin on type? you need the front mount that bolts to the transom and those 2 big bolts mount to. They made 2 different types the old style IIRC will mount to your transom or the newer heavy duty type that came on industrial loaders and have a different transom and have a front swept axle. I don't know if they are interchangeable. That's most of it. It would be best to put the heavy axle on it. Emails open, I think.
 
It can be mounted, I just recently sold an old style with a loader, they might be hard to find. I'll see what I have.
 
I just noticed that's the older style loader. Make sure you clean out those areas beneath those 2 big bolts as thats part of your oil tank. They had a mount that bolted to the transom and had 2 long bolts at the bottom that went through a piece of tube steel and bolted to the 2 holes at the bottom of the axle transom (maybe I meant truss all this time?). If you aren't going to work it to death that axle will work good. My father used one like that and cleaned out a lot of chicken houses and it did good. I think you can make that plate but I dont have any dimensions. you will be a little light on the rear unless you hang some weight back there. a box blade works pretty good.
 
(quoted from post at 05:09:37 05/20/20) I just noticed that's the older style loader. Make sure you clean out those areas beneath those 2 big bolts as thats part of your oil tank. They had a mount that bolted to the transom and had 2 long bolts at the bottom that went through a piece of tube steel and bolted to the 2 holes at the bottom of the axle transom (maybe I meant truss all this time?). If you aren't going to work it to death that axle will work good. My father used one like that and cleaned out a lot of chicken houses and it did good. I think you can make that plate but I dont have any dimensions. you will be a little light on the rear unless you hang some weight back there. a box blade works pretty good.

I have nothing for the rear, the ends of the rear arms are bare with just the hole towards the end. I do have a ROPS on the tractor, I don't know if that changes anything. (I haven't looked at the mounts yet, tractor isn't bought yet)

For the plate, do you know what part number I need? I can't find any info on that. I'll fabricate it if needed, but I don't even know what it looks like.

Thirdly, Im thinking of welding a cross bar underneath the axle to strengthen it up. Would that work?
 
I'll take a pic of the heavy duty one that I have. I think it's straight down from the axle mount. I have to go spray right now.
 

Thanks for your help!! The tractor will be new to me this Friday, anything I should know/service once I get it?

Also, for the rear weight I plan on putting a modified ditch witch 3 pt backhoe on so I'm not worried about not enough weight back there haha. I'll probably need to add some beams from the loader rear arms to the backhoe frame.
 
Well, now I see you have that plate. It bolts to your axle truss. You need 2 long bolts that fit the holes at the bottom of your axle truss with a piece of steel tube that is long enough to go from your truss to the rear side of that plate. I think the top hole on your plate bolts to your truss just under the axle pin. You do neede another coupler like the pump has and the connecting shaft, most i have seen are 13 teeth.I don't know how big your backhoe is but the 3 point isn't really made to handle the heavy swinging metal. I have a backhoe-tractor underframe that bolts to the rear axle with ubolts and has two steel beams that go all the way to the front and bolt to the front axle truss. The backhoe is then pinned to that framework. I forgot the measurements but the 2 bottom holes are about 9" apart and about 7" from the radiator mount area. Here's you pics. I took them straight but they came out sideways.
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I had a spare rear mount for a loader and let the man that bought my other loader bring it with him so he could make a set. He hasn't mailed it back yet. It's bolted on with the rear fenders and has a hole for a large pin that goes through the rear of your loader. The newer style just bolts up to the fender mounts. It might be easier to go ahead and just weld some plates on the ends of yours.
 
I don't know how strong threaded rod is, ours had bolts. The steel pipe was 1 to 1 1/2 inch. I think your plate mounts to that center hole on the truss and those 2 long bolts. The pipe gives it more strength. You can also weld it to be stronger. That loader should pick your rear wheels off the ground when you overload the front. I'll get a pic of my subframe also.
 

Here are a bunch now pictures of the front and rear of the tractor. It's looking like I have the wrong mounting plate, and I'll need to cut and drill mine to adapt it.

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I'm still a little confused on the two different tractors you are showing. Looks like I have the plate on my loader that you have on the yellow loader picture. But I have an AG chassis.

Will this work with my loader/ AG chassis?

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How are the mounts different does anyone know?

Thanks!!
 
This thread's a year old now and most folks here us Classic View so they won't even see your latest post.
 
Here are a few pictures of my 19-105 loader on my Jubilee. I had to build all my mounts and I have no idea how similar or different the mounts would be for your tractor.
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Wow, beautiful work on those mounts, they look nice and thick. This does help me a lot. It's looking like I can just add to the front mount plate I have, and fab up something for the rear.

Do you know any way to strengthen the front axle kingpins? Or is swapping for an HD/industrial front axle the only way?

Thanks everyone!
 
(quoted from post at 00:36:26 05/21/20)
Ok I really appreciate the help. I will post pictures and a YouTube video here as I get it completed for future generations

Does anyone know if there is a crankshaft pulley hub that will fit this tractor? The one I bought fits the spline but there is not enough room to bolt it onto the pulley.

Any pictures of similar setups would help thanks y'all!!
 

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