Welcome! Please use the navigational links on your left to explore our website.

Company Logo Shop Now
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts
Salvage

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

Related Sites
Tractor Shed
Ford 8N/9N Club
Kountry Life
  
Ford Tractors Discussion Forum
:

Backhoe plumbing mystery

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author  [Modern View]
Nyquil Junkie

05-13-2020 17:23:41




Report to Moderator

The backhoe on this 63/64 4000 industrial has some previous owner plumbing that I'm at a loss to figure out. Its a Sherman power digger 1168 (an F9 as far as I can read). On the back of the swing chain cylinder there is a cap on the end of it. The parts manual says its a breather. The left one is fine, the right one has a hose the last owner seems to have scabbed on there, and the hose goes into a gallon jug under the backhoe seat. It fills up in a few min and you have to dump it back in the tank. The hoe seems to work fine with it like that.

Why did they put this hose on like that... the other side breather doesn't leak, why not just put a plug in the breather hole if it was leaking? I was going to plumb the hose into the tank to eliminate the catch jug but I want to make sure I don't screw something up.

Now I looked in the parts book for this hoe, and on Messicks and NH, it says the breather is no longer sold... it was replaced with "kit #7700025".

Of course that kit is also no longer sold by anyone I can find.

What was the "Kit" and can I just fabricate one? Can I just stick a bolt in the breather hole (I assume its threaded)? What purpose did the breathers serve?



[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Nyquil Junkie

05-13-2020 21:29:37




Report to Moderator
 Re: Backhoe plumbing mystery in reply to Nyquil Junkie, 05-13-2020 17:23:41  
Is the swing chain suppose to have some slack in it or is that because the cyl leaks?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Nyquil Junkie

05-13-2020 18:20:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: Backhoe plumbing mystery in reply to Nyquil Junkie, 05-13-2020 17:23:41  
I see... that makes sense. If I was to plug that breather with the hose on it then the fluid leaking past the seal would fill the rear and have nowhere to go, then either slow the piston down or blow it out or lock it up or... something.
That swing cyl doesn't look like its too hard to remove, (famous last words..) there is a lot of room in there and its only connected to the frame with one pin. For now I'll just put a new hose on it and stick it in the main tank while I'm using it and get it rebuilt before winter maybe.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson

05-13-2020 21:12:19




Report to Moderator
 Re: Backhoe plumbing mystery in reply to Nyquil Junkie, 05-13-2020 18:20:32  
Good idea. Remember to level the hoe tractor when using so that it doesn't over swing where the cylinder is leaking. Jim



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson

05-13-2020 17:40:20




Report to Moderator
 Re: Backhoe plumbing mystery in reply to Nyquil Junkie, 05-13-2020 17:23:41  
Opposing cylinders are often used to run the swing. They are one way cylinders and work fro the same valving. If they are in good shape, they need to breath on the end of the cylinder that is not pressurized. (thus breathers. If one of them gets leaky internally, allowing hydraulic oil to get past the piston, the oil comes out the breather. rather than fixing the proben by rebuilding the cylinder the Previous owner put a hose on it to prevent loosing the oil at 5 dollars a minute. Breathers are readily available from Surplus city or almost any hydraulic shop. Take the other breather with you when you have the cylinder repaired, or when you shop for parts to fix it your self. Jim

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Nyquil Junkie

05-13-2020 17:26:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: Backhoe plumbing mystery in reply to Nyquil Junkie, 05-13-2020 17:23:41  
Here is a pic of the catch can under the hoe seat... and an unrelated pic of the fancy stereo system.







[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Today's Featured Article - Restoration Story: 1964 JD 2010 Dsl - Part 2 - by Jim Nielsen. Despite having to disassemble the majority of my John Deere 2010's diesel engine, I was still hopeful I could leave the engine-complete with crankshaft and camshaft-in the tractor. This would make the whole engine rebuild job much easier-and much less expensive! I soon found however, that the #4 conrod bearing had disintegrated, taking with it chunks of the crankshaft journal. As a resul ... [Read Article]

Latest Ad: need 3 point arms (with the ball) especially need the [More Ads]

Copyright © 1997-2021 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy