selectospeed

mmgunner

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Does the 3 point run off of the same pump as the transmission? I have no drive and no pto but i do have 3
point. Transmission is always in neutral. Whats broke?
 
Transmission pump is separate from hydraulic. I am guessing you have a stripped input shaft, front split. There are thrust washers that will drop if not held in place. Thousand or hundred series.

I just enough to be dangerous with SOS.
 

Bern's question is the most important response you've gotten yet. Can you roll the tractor when the engine is running? Or is it locked in place?


Ernie D, it's not a hundred series. SOS was not available in the hundred series. It made its debut in the 01 series.
 
I have the tractors rear axle on jack stands , so it can't run over me. How can the hydraulics work and not
the pto or drive. It looks like the main shaft powers everything
 
Back up here... First what is it your working on? A 5000 is completely different from say a 3000, and the X000 stuff is different from the early X01 series. We need more details!!
 
What model tractor is it? If it is a 2000 or 4000, please say whether it has a 3 cylinder or 4 cylinder engine as there were two versions of each.
 
The hydraulic pump for the 3 point is a completely and entirely unrelated to your transmission.
The pump is driven off the cam on the right rear corner of your engine.
So anytime the engine is running your 3 point will work
You could have an empty transmission case hooked up between the engine and rear end and your 3 point lift would still work perfectly.
 
(quoted from post at 17:44:10 05/12/20) Wouldn't that stop the 3 point from working?

As has been said, no. The transmission has its own pump. The PTO is part of your transmission unless it's a 5000. That explains why both may be out. As has been said also, the hydraulic pump is driven by the engine and has nothing to do with the transmission system.

It would be good to know what model we're talking about here. And you still haven't answered the important question that's been posed by at least two of us, Does it go to neutral in all ratios or does it remain in Park in all ratios once the engine is started?

You answer these two questions and we know what to suggest to try and help you. If you don't or can't answer these questions, we can be of little real help to you!
 
The hydraulic pump on the 01 series and early 2000, 4000 Runs of the back end of the cam shaft. The pump is on the RH side of the engine.
 
were is the hydraulic pump?

I assume that you mean "Where is the hydraulic pump?" The answer to that question depends on which model tractor you have. Ford made a number of different models between 1969 and 1975 that had the Select-O-Speed transmission, and the hydraulic pump for the 3 point lift was located in a few different places depending on which model you have.

If it's a pre-65 4 cylinder model then Ultradog is correct, the hydraulic pump is on the right side near the rear of the engine, If it is a 1965-1975 3 cylinder model then it is on the left side near the rear of the engine. If it is a 5000 then the hydraulic pump is inside the right side of the rear axle center housing and it is driven by a shaft from the transmission, and the second half of that pump also controls the PTO. If it is a 6000 then I believe, but am not 100% positive on this, that the pump is on the left side of the engine, but farther forward.
 
(quoted from post at 22:19:52 05/12/20)
Ford made a number of different models between 1969 and 1975 that had the Select-O-Speed transmission,

Ahem! I believe you mean 19[b:d175619587][color=red:d175619587]5[/color:d175619587][/b:d175619587]9
 
(quoted from post at 23:25:23 05/12/20)
(quoted from post at 22:19:52 05/12/20)
Ford made a number of different models between 1969 and 1975 that had the Select-O-Speed transmission,

Ahem! I believe you mean 19[b:01c2acceec][color=red:01c2acceec]5[/color:01c2acceec][/b:01c2acceec]9

Thanks for the correction. The older I get the more my fingers seem to have a mind of their own. My brain said 1959 but my fingers didn't listen.
 
Pulled suction line for transmission hydraulic. Filled manifold were it it connects to, and cranked engine ,
oil never moved. I have a 1959 881. There are no external lines for a cam shaft mounted hydraulic pump.
Transmission appears to hold in park at all times
 
Sorry im so dumb, trying to get thru these forums. 4 cylinder diesel model 881. will look for hydraulics pump and get back
 
(quoted from post at 07:57:30 05/13/20) Pulled suction line for transmission hydraulic. Filled manifold were it it connects to, and cranked engine ,
oil never moved. I have a 1959 881. There are no external lines for a cam shaft mounted hydraulic pump.
Transmission appears to hold in park at all times

Say what??? There is no external suction line for the transmission! Hydraulic pump (3 pt and remote) is not mounted to the camshaft. It is mounted to the engine block. It is driven by a gear that is bolted to the end of the camshaft. This pump does have a manifold that joins it to the bell housing.

Sorry, but I'm beginning to think you either need to take this tractor to someone who knows what they're doing . . . or bring someone who knows what they're doing to it.

BTW Do you proper and clean oil in the transmission at the proper level? Don't pull any dipstick! None of them will answer this question for you.

Provided the transmission oil meets the above criteria, you have input shaft and/or torque limiting clutch problems.
 
Pump in transmission dosen't turn, am splitting tractor. Why doesn't the transport disconnect not work either position is locked
 
before you do anything else, remove the side cover (where the disconnect lever is) and check out what's going on - the fork can become disengaged - if you can roll the tractor, the transmission is disconnected.
 
(quoted from post at 10:33:52 05/14/20) before you do anything else, remove the side cover (where the disconnect lever is) and check out what's going on - the fork can become disengaged - if you can roll the tractor, the transmission is disconnected.

There's no fork. It's just an eccentric shaft.
 
(quoted from post at 15:03:37 05/14/20)
(quoted from post at 10:33:52 05/14/20) before you do anything else, remove the side cover (where the disconnect lever is) and check out what's going on - the fork can become disengaged - if you can roll the tractor, the transmission is disconnected.

There's no fork. It's just an eccentric shaft.
Will pull apart tomorrow THANKYOU
 

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