nashranch

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I've been contacted to see if I want to buy this 80's Model 6600 w/ loader. It hasn't ran in several years the guy says. Hood is off but all there i guess.

Good or Bad deal ??? No value yet what he wants .

What's it worth if engine not seized???

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The model number looks like it starts with EA214 but I can't make out the last letter. It looks like an M but I can't be sure.

EA2 is a 6600.
The 1 says it has a diesel engine.
The 4 says it has single speed independent 540 rpm PTO.
If the last character is an M then that would mean that it has an 8 speed transmission with dual power.

1A26B is the Unit Number, which means that it left the assembly line on January 26 1981 during the day shift.

C661671 is a 1981 serial number, which agrees with the Unit Number.
 
(quoted from post at 19:17:45 04/20/20) The model number looks like it starts with EA214 but I can't make out the last letter. It looks like an M but I can't be sure.

EA2 is a 6600.
The 1 says it has a diesel engine.
The 4 says it has single speed independent 540 rpm PTO.
If the last character is an M then that would mean that it has an 8 speed transmission with dual power.

1A26B is the Unit Number, which means that it left the assembly line on January 26 1981 during the day shift.

C661671 is a 1981 serial number, which agrees with the Unit Number.

Pretty sure it's an M Sean. That makes it a dual power 8 speed.

Not at all familiar with dual power. I'm sure it's good. Can somsbody explain it to me
 

I see what's left of the Blue Power Special decal on the grill shell.
Dual power is a planetary unit with clutches in the front of the transmission, it allows one to shift up or down hard a gear without clutching, pretty handy, my 6610 has it.
Look on the left side of the fuel tank shroud for a small lever sticking out the side, it connected to cable that shifted the dual power unit.

Your probably to far away but I'd like a chance at it if you decide not to get it. Would love to have the engine and trans in my 6600 row crop.
 
(quoted from post at 21:42:41 04/20/20)
I see what's left of the Blue Power Special decal on the grill shell.
Dual power is a planetary unit with clutches in the front of the transmission, it allows one to shift up or down hard a gear without clutching, pretty handy, my 6610 has it.
Look on the left side of the fuel tank shroud for a small lever sticking out the side, it connected to cable that shifted the dual power unit.

Your probably to far away but I'd like a chance at it if you decide not to get it. Would love to have the engine and trans in my 6600 row crop.

Don't know for sure where it's at Jerry. This guys ph. # is a 503 area code. I think it'll be in the Portland Oregon area. That's a long haul from Kentucky
 
Seems like a deal to me. Even if you put 5k into it you?d make some money. Let me know if you pass because I?d take a closer look.
 
Hi there: I'm in NW Oregon,if everybody else passes I would like a chance at it. Thanks MHG
 
(quoted from post at 22:09:53 04/20/20) Seems like a deal to me. Even if you put 5k into it you?d make some money. Let me know if you pass because I?d take a closer look.
I will let you know dopp creek...I know you're in Newberg
 
(quoted from post at 10:47:48 04/21/20)
(quoted from post at 22:09:53 04/20/20) Seems like a deal to me. Even if you put 5k into it you?d make some money. Let me know if you pass because I?d take a closer look.
I will let you know dopp creek...I know you're in Newberg

you too MHG
 
(quoted from post at 20:06:13 04/25/20)
She s on her way to Nash Ranch

So is Nash Ranch like Cadillac Ranch, but with Nash Ramblers buried tail end up instead of Cadillacs?

NAH....Sean,
Nash Ranch, is where the Tractor Bandit lives!!!! :lol:

Gary :wink:
 
(quoted from post at 19:14:47 04/25/20)
(quoted from post at 20:06:13 04/25/20)
She s on her way to Nash Ranch

So is Nash Ranch like Cadillac Ranch, but with Nash Ramblers buried tail end up instead of Cadillacs?

NAH....Sean,
Nash Ranch, is where the Tractor Bandit lives!!!! :lol:

Gary :wink:

Commonly known as Ranchito Bandido
 
Pulled across some truck scales close to home see what we weighed. Trailer and tractor with loader and 5 1/2' box scraper weighed in at 12,080 lbs.
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Mike
That's a nice looking trailer. 'BEEFY'!!!!!
Are ya gonna fix the 6600 and keep it.....or up on the block????

Gary :roll:
 

That's a rental trailer Gary. The tractor will be a fixer upper and will be re SOLD at a huge profit cuz you know I stole it. The clutch is stuck and it's not running. Don't know any more than that at the moment
 
So how close to me were you? You do know that there are laws against theft don't you? Going to have to use your stimulus check to buy a new firearm at this rate.
 
(quoted from post at 22:41:15 04/25/20) So how close to me were you? You do know that there are laws against theft don't you? Going to have to use your stimulus check to buy a new firearm at this rate.

217 out to 26 Arlen, then towards Seaside. Out to Milepost 22. Turned onto Fish Hawk Falls Hwy. Right in that area
 

Looking better but still to far for me, but I've found a 7000 row crop that looks to be in the similar condition much closer for close to what you paid.
 
(quoted from post at 20:47:55 04/26/20)
Looking better but still to far for me, but I've found a 7000 row crop that looks to be in the similar condition much closer for close to what you paid.

I got it cheaper than 2500 Jerry, actually i stole it. Also got a 5 1/2 foot JD Box Scraper too
 
(quoted from post at 03:08:05 04/27/20)
(quoted from post at 20:47:55 04/26/20)
Looking better but still to far for me, but I've found a 7000 row crop that looks to be in the similar condition much closer for close to what you paid.

I got it cheaper than 2500 Jerry, actually i stole it. Also got a 5 1/2 foot JD Box Scraper too
The police are on there way. Don t forget to give them a coffee.
 
(quoted from post at 09:08:05 04/27/20)
(quoted from post at 20:47:55 04/26/20)
Looking better but still to far for me, but I've found a 7000 row crop that looks to be in the similar condition much closer for close to what you paid.

I got it cheaper than 2500 Jerry, actually i stole it. Also got a 5 1/2 foot JD Box Scraper too

Have the 7000 bought for $1600, one new rear tire, no attachments, I saw the box blade, I have a 7' Rhino.

By the way my name is John, not Jerry, but I'll just about answer to any name if food or cheap Ford tractors are involved. :lol:
 
(quoted from post at 07:53:35 04/27/20)
(quoted from post at 09:08:05 04/27/20)
(quoted from post at 20:47:55 04/26/20)
Looking better but still to far for me, but I've found a 7000 row crop that looks to be in the similar condition much closer for close to what you paid.

I got it cheaper than 2500 Jerry, actually i stole it. Also got a 5 1/2 foot JD Box Scraper too

Have the 7000 bought for $1600, one new rear tire, no attachments, I saw the box blade, I have a 7' Rhino.

By the way my name is John, not Jerry, but I'll just about answer to any name if food or cheap Ford tractors are involved. :lol:

Not sure why I had Jerry stuck in my brain... you got a good deal too. I'm happy with my deal at $1500, had to drive 170 miles one way but my neighbor drive and we took his 1 ton Duramax diesel
 
Hopefully the engine is ok.... I haven't tried to crank it over yet... I think I'm gonna pull the injectors first and squirt some oil in the cylinders and then crank it over. The PO said he pulled the hood to replace the battery and the filter housing but then it sat for quite a while. When he got back to it the clutch was stuck he said and he afraid to safely separate the tractor . He did but a new clutch disc and pressure plate which I got in the deal.
 

The engine is Seized... pulled all the injectors.. they look OK. Also pulled starter cut it wouldn't engage with flywheel. Bending is rusted stuck in place. Crowbar on flywheel won't budge it. Dumped a bunch of diesel and oil in each cylinder to soak.

Any other tricks to break er loose
Not a real happy camper
 
(quoted from post at 16:28:27 04/27/20)
The engine is Seized... pulled all the injectors.. they look OK. Also pulled starter cut it wouldn't engage with flywheel. Bending is rusted stuck in place. Crowbar on flywheel won't budge it. Dumped a bunch of diesel and oil in each cylinder to soak.

Any other tricks to break er loose
Not a real happy camper
I ll make your day, I ll give you $2000 and take it off of your hands.
 
Engine still soaking... it's really seized. But I got it cheap. Been sorting out wiring today. Starter bendix was stuck real bad but I got it freed up and working good. Also took off trans. top cover to check out neutral safety switch. Got it working. Also found what's left of the light switch tucked up inside the fuel tank cover.
 

I think today i will drain the antifreeze, pull the radiator and see if i can get a big socket on the crankshaft pulley nut. Hoping i can break the engine loose.
Any words of wisdom out there?
 

Today I drained about a 1/2 gallon of water from crankcase along with about 2 gallons of black gold. Then I drained radiator and pulled it off so I could get a good shot at the crank pulley bolt. Was hoping I could break the engine loose but it was a no go. Tomorrow I will pull the head to see how nasty and stuck the piatons are.

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The big problem is working on it outside in the dirt under a 10 x 10 Harbor freight Pop up. It was raining so it was a mud hole when I started on this. With the roof and ROPS it is too tall to fit into my shop. I'm sure many a Ford tractors have been rebuilt in the dirt.
 
(quoted from post at 19:02:21 04/29/20)
The big problem is working on it outside in the dirt under a 10 x 10 Harbor freight Pop up. It was raining so it was a mud hole when I started on this. With the roof and ROPS it is too tall to fit into my shop. I'm sure many a Ford tractors have been rebuilt in the dirt.
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Dumb question, why not take the rops off ( the roof then the rops)? That looks like it would barely fit in my garage with the rops off. Also in my father s garage too, which is smaller.
 

It's a pretty good job taking the ROPs off, the canopy is fairly heavy, a loader would be best to remove it, the ROP's weighs well over 100 lbs, probably closer to 200, plus the same bolts that hold the ROPs also hold the fenders one so they have to come off as well.
That said once the head is off if it looks like the engine will have to be pulled I'd strip it down and stick in the shop on a good floor to split the tractor.
 

Doing my spousal grocery shopping right now. Wife still working for a living. Will start the head removal process when I get home. Down the road the ROPS may come off to get it in the shop.
 

Getting ready to order parts... just wanted to make sure know what engine I have. I'm thinking this is a bsd 444 or is it just a 268 Cid engine?
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According to a Google search, D5NN6015J is a 256, which is what a regular 6600 should have, not a 268 like the Blue Power Special should have. The D5 at the beginning also says that the casting was designed in 1975, so I don't think it's a Blue Power Special or a BSD engine. Also, I believe that the BSD engines have the raised webbing in the casting which would be visible in your picture if it were there.

Perhaps that transmission and engine left the factory in two different tractors.
 
If it truly is a 256 ci engine, which it appears to be then the proper gasket set would be HS5670. The other one says it's for the 6600, 6610 and BSD444, the latter two of which are definitely 268 ci enigines so the 6600 reference there is probably for the 268 Blue Power Special.
 

256 and 268 both have the same 4.4 bore and according to NH parts 5000, 6600, 6610 all use the same head gasket NH # 87800517
233 has 4.2 bore and uses a different head gasket.

When I looks the parts up it showed head set HS4940 for all 4 cylinder engines.
Only one I saw with 5670 was the full set FS5670.
 
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This is just me, but seeing how it's this far apart, I'd pull the rusted pistons and make sure they are not froze up. If your careful you could work those rings out, clean them up and put them back in.
 
Trying to disconnect dual power hookup into tyranny case but don't know how to disconnect. I git the big Nut undone

I am going to remove dash, fuel tank and related stuff to access the clutch. Maybe this is not easy way to access clutch but I thought I'd give it a try

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Well that was a waste of time. I did raise up the steering box with the fuel tank attached several inches until the dual power cable held me up. There NO access to the clutch that way. Inside there is a cast iron housing blocking any possible view of the clutch. I did peek in thru the starter hole and could see the dual power valve body. A split will be in order shortly as soon as i get part of the loader frame unbolted from the bell housing
 
Got her split this afternoon. It's nastier than I thought possible. The flywheel will definitely need to be turned.
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That tractor has been setting for a while, with the clutch looking like that I can pretty much assure you the rings are stuck on that one piston.
 
yes been sitting quite a while. Working on rusted clutch stuff now...gotta have flywheel turned of course. One I get bell housing mated with engine I will drop pan and probably pull all pistons to check out. I was gonna try and run it that way but that would be a bad choice.. no hurry on this so I might as well do it right
 
I finally got the upper gasket kit yesterday and have decided to put the engine back together without dropping the pan and pulling out the pistons. Might be a big mistake but we'll see how well it runs. Last nite i got it all back together and bled the fuel up to the injector pump. I tried cranking the machine for a bit but got no fuel spurting out injector pump lines. Wondering now about the condition of the I pump. I did drain it and put in new oil up to the level plug. This is a Minimec pump
Battery got low from cranking so i put it on the charger and gave up for the nite.
Any help out there in this matter?
 

Mike;
" have decided to put the engine back together without dropping the pan and pulling out the pistons."

Think you might be making a BIG mistake. Just think back at what you found with the rings, on the last 3000!!!
At the very least, I'd do a comp. reading on it!!
Might save the bores on this one.....ya never know....Stuck/blown rings can tear up the guts on this one, and cost ya an overhaul!!
$$$$$...!!!

Just say'in!! :roll:

Gary
 

I'm a Gambler Gary....I just want to get it running a bit , then i'll do a compression check and see what it's doing. It's so easy to work on with the loader off the tractor. The engine is back together now but i have starter issues so i haven't run it yet. My neighbor has a starter for a 4000 i can borrow so i'll do that to get it running. Hopefully the starter will fit
 

Nash Ranch is a Happy Camper...borrowed my neighbor's starter and got this tractor running finally. It runs good with little or no blowby. There is black smoke when you goose the throttle but i could expect that for a tractor that just woke up from a 8-10 nap, Still got lots of wiring to do but this has been a good buy for me.
As GBinMT would say...The Bandit stole another one
 

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