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73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again!

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GB in MT.

04-24-2020 13:43:01




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I got tired of trying to fix, all the broken wires, and non-color coded
wires. To heck with that!!!!
SOOooo, I ordered and received a new harness!! Guess what......No better off, except a real nice looking harness....you can guess whatever.......NO COLOR CODE MATCHING....NO Installation sheet as to where the wires go!!!

Did'nt I mention.......I'm lost with electrics!!!!

Has ANYONE done a harness change with the harness they sell for a 73 Ford 3000 D. !!???

I need someone that has done one , and can help me figger out where all these wires go!!

Very nicely done harness,....but the color code does not even come close to being the same code, that is pictured in the FO31 Shop Manual!!!

I'm thinking I'm too dang old to figger this out!!

TIA

Gary

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Destroked 450

04-26-2020 20:43:20




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Yes they where in the package and were the same instructions but I've had this harness in my inventory for over a year.

Having 8 65/newer Ford tractors I try to keep some extra parts on hand, this harness was for a differ tractor but it hasn't made it into the show yet, I'll be ordering another harness soon, maybe two since it looks like I can use one one my 5000.



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GB in MT.

04-26-2020 10:52:14




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
D...S...

Was the instruction sheet in box, the same as what I sent to you???

Maybe, someone read my statement about not having the instructions, placed in the box with the harness!!!???

When I got my new Sparex harness, it did not come with ANYTHING!!! Just the harness....no instruction sheet.

Gary :?: :evil:



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Destroked 450

04-26-2020 07:55:08




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Went out to the shop yesterday and opened up the new warning harness, the paper was in the package, this is the first Sparex harness I've used. The cloth covering is different but may offer more protection than a couple layers of tape that was used on previous aftermarket harnesses I've used, while changing the terminals on the regulator wires I found that even though the wires looked to be of good size most of that size was the rubber coating and the actual wires are a bit small.

The original brown power wires were 10 or 12 gauge size, the new ones are a size smaller 12 or 14 gauge, probably ok for the original 22 amp generator but a bit concerning for a 45 amp alternator when recharging a low battery.

I found the engine harness to be several inches to long which I simply folded in behind the valve cover but it appears to be long enough to possibly work on the 4 cylinder 5000 model, this is good to know as I have a 5000 project tractor that will need rewired as well.

Even though a couple of the wires didn't match the instructions colors it was simple enough to figure out where they went and the instructions made to entire process a nearly plug and play job.

I'll keep the instruction sheet in my files should to next harness come without them.

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GB in MT.

04-26-2020 04:23:15




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Morning Wayne;

Don't worry yerself over me......and yes I did receive the full wiring harness install sheet from Hacke that matches the harness that I have.

Now, as soon as I get Leslie back from having her dental work done in Missoula, I plan on replacing the old tore up wiring!!
Always something going on around here!!!

Looks like....if all goes well....my 3000 will have a new harness on it soon!

I'm thinking, I should also have a new harness on me!!!
Thanks a heap for your effort.

Say hello to your wife for me...Hope all is going well there.

Gary

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WayneIA

04-26-2020 03:36:27




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Gary. I am sorry to not have gotten any thing to you, but between the computer and a 86 year old man, and me not being able to fined your address, I guess I give up. Besides it sound like you may have gotten what you need



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Hacke

04-25-2020 12:22:19




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Glad to be of any help.

I would do some checking at the installation of the harness. There may be a reason to why they did not give you an instruction...

It is common with these problems when someone bought an alternator or a key switch, for instance, and very annoying.



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Ultradog MN

04-26-2020 02:20:04




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to Hacke, 04-25-2020 12:22:19  
Welcome to the Board Hacke.
This is a vastly superior board to the other one we're on.
Much greater knowledge base here.
As for the goofy forum software here;
Nope, no editing posts and no software that makes life easy for you here.
Learn to use a bit of html - it aint hard. Also, there are two versions here. Classic view and modern view. More than half of us use Classic here.
Click the link to see the forum in classic. Try it, you'll like it.

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GB in MT.

04-25-2020 11:49:57




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

"Hacke"

Ya just made my day a whole lot easier!!! Didn't have a clue, what I was gonna do, without the second half of that instruction sheet!! :D
Don't know why that sheet is not mailed out with those harnesses!!????

Thanks for the help!!! I'll be a happy camper when I get that harness installed. Really don't need the color code, to install it....all points are numbered!!!!

Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gary

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Hacke

04-25-2020 10:19:57




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Strange forum...I can not edit and I can not attach files.

Here eare the files I tried to attach earlier:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o8hw6u1m3h6ly03/AAA0BjCXuwxizDOJ-pSU_Ca4a?dl=0



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Hacke

04-25-2020 10:12:34




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
I can not edit an old post?



Here are some information for the original harness, to make the matching easier.



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Destroked 450

04-25-2020 09:59:54




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
I have that harness on my 4000SU and another one in the shop to go on a project tractor I'm working on. SU's been converted to alternator but I can probity figure out what wire went to where.

May be later tonight or tomorrow before I can get photos or something drawn up.



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Hacke

04-25-2020 09:53:20




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
I believe this is the harness you have:

https://www.malpasonline.co.uk/itm/Wiring-Harnesses-for-Tractors/Wiring-Harness-for-ford-new-holland-3000-1000-series/61981

Direct link to the document for the harness:

https://www.malpasonline.co.uk/WebResources/Common/Docs/61981_en_is.pdf



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GB in MT.

04-25-2020 09:39:01




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
[quote="CVPost-WayneIA"](quoted from post at 10:17:54 04/25/20) Ha Gary
I got some papers ,electrical diagrams etc, of the 1000 series tractors. Some not so good. Email should be open! Maybe could send them your way, if I am lucky!!! Might be of help to you. What is the prefix of your serial Number? "C"?[/quote

Morning Wayne;

Just jump in yer car and bring anything ya got, since you have been here awhile back......(but since then.....you may have forgot a lot!!!) I know I have!!!!! :lol:
My safe email is open at the bottom of this answer on Modern side of the forum. Changed email addy, since you were here.
Gary

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WayneIA

04-25-2020 09:17:54




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Ha Gary I got some papers ,electrical diagrams etc, of the 1000 series tractors. Some not so good. Email should be open! Maybe could send them your way, if I am lucky!!! Might be of help to you. What is the prefix of your serial Number? "C"?



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GB in MT.

04-24-2020 17:20:00




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
Jmor sent this to me. Unfortunatly he said he does not have the second half of it.

Anyone out here got the bottom half of this picture.



I have a feeling that the second half of this, has the #'rd location for all the #'rd wires.

THAT would help a LOT!!!!

GB



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GB in MT.

04-24-2020 14:31:52




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 Re: 73 Ford 3000....wiring harness HELP again! in reply to GB in MT., 04-24-2020 13:43:01  
woops!!! Forgot to say which harness I bought!!

This one!

Ford 3000 Wiring Harness, for Generator, 12 VoltWiring Harness, for Generator, 12 Volt - This 2 Piece set is for 12 Volt, Diesels using a generator (1965-74): 2000, 3000, 4000. Also replaces C5NN14N104R. Must be used as a set - will not plug into original harness. (Part No: C9NN14A103B)

GB



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