Ford Wagon gear??

I have an older wagon gear that I hope someone can help me identify. This is a gear that has been severely neglected over many years, and one of the spindles will not take grease and is nearly frozen. I think this gear might be a Ford since there are traces of blue paint on it here and there. So I am trying to force the frozen spindle out to clean it up and thoroughly grease it. I would like to know the manufacturer and model number so I can find a couple of parts, ie. tie rod ends. Can anyone tell me the brand and model? See picture below. Thanks for any help!

I am trying again to attach a picture.

Paint color rarely means anything old equipment. The most common method for freeing them up is heat.

(quoted from post at 15:29:16 11/18/19) I have an older wagon gear that I hope someone can help me identify. This is a gear that has been severely neglected over many years, and one of the spindles will not take grease and is nearly frozen. I think this gear might be a Ford since there are traces of blue paint on it here and there. So I am trying to force the frozen spindle out to clean it up and thoroughly grease it. I would like to know the manufacturer and model number so I can find a couple of parts, ie. tie rod ends. Can anyone tell me the brand and model? See picture below. Thanks for any help!

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I can help you get grease in there.

Un screw the zerk fitting and take an ice pick and clean out all the dried grease from the hole in the spindle and the zerk, and re-install the zerk.

Remove the grease pump quick connect and attach it to a straight, 6" long 1/8" pipe nipple. Fill that pipe up half way with grease and find a bolt that fits snugly into the 1/8" pipe. With all the air removed from the pipe, place the coupler over the stubborn zerk and smack the bolt with a 3 pound hammer. The inertia built up in a 3 pound sledge moving at 20 mph is like 10,000 psi and believe you me, that grease will break through anything.

My wife's grandfather, an old farmer and self taught machinist taught me that and it works like a charm.

I can take a pic if I haven't described it well enough.

Tom

Off Road SHO - thanks for the suggestion. I think I have a pretty good picture of what you are describing to force grease into the spindle. The good news is that I was able to remove the spindle from it's bore
today, using heat and a sledgehammer. It took awhile but I succeeded. Lots of rust for sure in there. Do you know how I can identify the brand and model of wagon? I want to replace tie rod ends also .

John, while there are "brands" of wagon gears, there were so many different builders that it is like searching for a needle in a hay stack with an old one like that. I had one that was like that and I took it to an old guy that did fabrication and also had a milling machine. He made and installed new bushings to tighten it up.

Yeah, like wires and even tractors, colors mean nothing. I don't know if Ford even made a wagon running gear but I know Dearborn supplied one. Most had a riveted ID plate and decal. You can get a copy of the MPC for the wagon and see if some parts match up. Wheel hubs would have a Dearborn p/n. Wheels were standard implement 15" or 16" Ford style. Spindles can be disassembled and bearings and races matched up to replace. Try Motion Industries for OEM TIMKEN parts. ID tags were riveted on the rear frame. If missing there should still be remnants of a tag and/or rivet holes.


DEARBORN WAGON RUNNING GEAR, RESTORED by TIM DALEY:




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As Tin said, there were Dearborn gears, but they were red. Ford sold Big Blue (made by Cobey) equipment, including running gears, which were blue, but yours doesn't look like one of them. Older EZ-Trail gears were blue, and if you go back far enough, the tongue attached like yours. The bolster stakes look like EZ-Trail. 6 bolt hubs? While lots of companies used 5 (or even 4) built hubs on lighter gears, EZ-Trail, as far as I know, always used 6, except for the newer, heavier wagons with 8 bolt hubs.

*as Tim said

Can you post a picture of the tie rod ends?
EZ-Trail parts can be ordered off their website, if you don't have a local dealer.

That looks like a "Big Blue" running gear. I'm not sure if it is necessarily Ford branded, but we had a couple that came from our Ford dealer that we used for hay wagons. I think there was a tag on the backside of the rear axle.

I have looked intently for a serial number tag or anything else on the running gear that would help identify the manufacturer. I did find two small holes on the rear cross frame member, that look like they could have once held a serial number tag. But it's long gone. The good news is that I have found bearing numbers on the wheel bearings and steering bearings so my local auto parts suppler has been able to help me replace those as needed.

(quoted from post at 21:08:33 11/20/19) I have looked intently for a serial number tag or anything else on the running gear that would help identify the manufacturer. I did find two small holes on the rear cross frame member, that look like they could have once held a serial number tag. But it's long gone. The good news is that I have found bearing numbers on the wheel bearings and steering bearings so my local auto parts suppler has been able to help me replace those as needed.

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I have a Dearborn 21-2 Wagon. I need to know where I can order bearings for this? Actually all the inner workings for the hubs. I have the old part numbers from dealers parts manual. Any help would be appreciated.

I replaced all of the wheel bearings and steering gear bearings on my old wagon. My local auto parts store was able to view the numbers on the old bearings and seals and hence find them for me. They were off-
the-shelf bearings so were not too expensive.