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1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem

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nashranch

11-08-2019 19:03:50




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I put on my 4' brush hog today to move it to a new location. For kicks i tried to engage PTO lever and i got a grinding noise. It did it with clutch in or out...didn't matter. You can shift gears ok with the engine running and the clutch seems to release ok. You can engage PTO lever with engine off and the start engine and the PTO shaft turns just fine.

What am i overlooking




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Texasmark1

11-11-2019 13:46:03




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
I have 5800 hrs on my '65 3000 Live, which I have owned for 20 years roughly, and have no idea as to when or if the PO changed the clutch; I haven't. Mine works fine but my pedal is up even with the top of the tranny casting like yours to get PTO and ground activation/ disengagement where I want them. Surely something is worn but rather than tearing into something, that does/could (if you are a magician with small hands) require splitting, on something working, I put up with having to raise my leg a little higher.

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Sean in PA

11-09-2019 14:23:12




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
Having the clutch pedal high is what you want for a two stage clutch and live PTO. If it's adjusted (or welded) that high and it's still not disengaging the PTO clutch when the pedal is pushed all of the way down, then either the PTO clutch is sticking or it needs to be replaced.



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nashranch

11-09-2019 10:56:39




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
The piece on the clutch shaft has been broken and welded plus the stop bolt is broken off....

Can i pull the clutch shaft out without splitting the tractor? I'm sure the answer is NO but i thought i'd ask.
Also the clutch pedal comes up way too high. That whole left running board has been farmerized at some point.





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Majorman

11-10-2019 01:57:24




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-09-2019 10:56:39  
From your picture the clutch adjustment bolt in the lever has been broken off allowing your clutch pedal too much movement and your clevis pin is in the wrong hole, it should be in the second hole for PTO work correctly.


This picture is of a Fordson Dexta but it is the same system. Note the adjustment bolt for pedal height and the two holes in the clevis.

You would need to split the tractor to get the shaft out as the clutch release bearing fork is bolte to the shaft and there is a big spring to release.

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Majorman

11-09-2019 01:01:01




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
Teaching Grandmother and sucking eggs comes to mind here but if so, my apologise.

On those tractors you have a two position clevis on the clutch rod at the clutch end. You have to move the pin to the rear most hole for PTO work and the front hole for normal driving. I have driven many miles when servicing those tractors, when sorting out suspected clutch problems, only to find the pin in the wrong hole.

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nashranch

11-08-2019 20:45:12




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  



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nashranch

11-08-2019 20:42:03




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
all the numbers i have Sean are in the pic below.... it's British



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Sean in PA

11-08-2019 20:32:08




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
The second to last character in the model number will tell you what kind of PTO it has. The model number for a 1965 3000 should start with 310, then the next character would be a 1 for a diesel engine or a 2 for a gasoline engine. The next one would be a 2 for non-live PTO (single clutch), or a 3 for live PTO (double clutch). The last character tells you what transmission it has.



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Shaun Wallace

11-08-2019 20:29:16




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
Transmission disc is getting to the point of replacement. The thickness of trans disc is crucial to pto being able to engage with engine running.



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nashranch

11-08-2019 20:24:57




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
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I just did that Curt and i think that will take of it. Tomorrow i will try it out



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Curt Cooke

11-09-2019 10:27:50




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 20:24:57  
OK, let us know!
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curt cooke

11-08-2019 20:12:47




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
Try to shorten the linkage from pedal to clutch lever. I think you'll find you have a 2 stage clutch and the linkage is adjusted such that the second stage is not being released/



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mikewood869

11-08-2019 19:09:29




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 Re: 1965 Ford 3000 PTO engaging problem in reply to nashranch, 11-08-2019 19:03:50  
Sounds like the clutch might be out of adjustment to me.



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