ford 1841 heavy duty with loader and backhoe

hello-question-is there any way to tell model of this old backhoe-it looks like a modern boxed tube unit can anyone help thanks
 

Walt, as a first time poster you are not allowed to post pictures. Just go down to the site comments and ask permission and the moderator will fix you up.
 
Of course can't really tell without a photo, but the "native" Ford
loader/backhoe combination for the 1841 is 712 loader and 723
backhoe.
 
some where on your back hoe and loader there should be a plate with the model numbers on them. you should to be able to go one the net and do a search for specs for your tractor and it will tell you what models were made for that tractor.
 
From the factory the 1841 came most often with either the Sherman F9 Black Panther Backhoe or the 713 Ford Backhoe. The 723 Ford Backhoe came later on sometime in the 1960's with the 4140s. Hard to tell the difference between the 713 and 723, but come to light when ordering parts.
 
My 1841 has the wain-roy backhoe on it. basically the same as the ford backhoe on the 4000 HD industrial
 

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